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k310 5 hours ago

Formerly RStudio

> RStudio (now Posit) was founded in 2009 with the vision of creating high quality open-source software for data scientists. We’ve grown exponentially over time but our culture remains unchanged. We invest heavily in open-source development, education, and the community with the goal of serving knowledge creators 100 years from now.

> We want Posit to serve a meaningful public purpose and we run the company for the benefit of our customers, employees, and the community at large. That’s why we’re designated as a Public Benefit Corporation. As a Certified B Corp, we must meet the highest verified standards of social and environmental performance, transparency, and accountability. Our directors and officers have a fiduciary responsibility to address social, economic, and environmental needs while still overseeing our business goals.

anewhnaccount2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So the main news is that they're giving up on develping an independent IDE and turning into another VS code fork. The loss of biodiversity and reliance on a no-so-reliable steward is mildly concerning.

uniqueuid 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

OTOH, posit funds a lot of development of important packages in the tidyverse and does a lot of community work etc.

So if maintaining RStudio is so much of a burden that it impedes the rest of their work, I don't think it's a bad idea to reduce the amount of work spent trying to compete with VSCode when that's an increasingly tough sell.

I'm not a fan of VSCode personally, but would probably be happy with a tmux setup with a console for R and some minimal output viewer, so people like me should be able to cobble something together that's a workable alternative to Posit.

cwnyth 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They (reps? devs? I don't remember) have recently mentioned that they won't give up on RStudio, that it will stay separate from Positron. I really hope that stays true.

benrutter 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not sure. wording like this:

> We anticipate many RStudio users will be curious about Positron.

Heavily implies it as a seperate thing that will continue to be maintained. They haven't said they're getting rid of support for Rstudio.

I think this is probably more that Posit have been trying to move more and more into the Python space, since that's where most data science is happenening. Rstudio has a great but is obviously very associated with R, so making a similarly intended project that is more explicit is supporting other languages isn't inherently a bad shout.

shellfishgene 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Unless this has recently changed, the support for LLM coding tools in RStudio is so bare bones that I would expect many users to switch to Positron just for that.

philipallstar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It will continue to be maintained, but if lots of R people move to Positron then RStudio's features will start to lag, and they'll eventually deprecate it.

specproc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I sent this to an R friend, and he was like, "yeah, it's been changed for a few years now". Is he missing something or has there been a major version or something?

almostkindatech an hour ago | parent [-]

May be mixing-up the company change with the IDE: Posit, the company, was named a few years ago, whereas Positron, the IDE, is new.