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dana321 6 hours ago

That and the fact they can self-fund the whole AI venture and don't require outside investment.

jsheard 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That and they were harvesting data way before it was cool, and now that it is cool, they're in a privileged position since almost no-one can afford to block GoogleBot.

They do voluntarily offer a way to signal that the data GoogleBot sees is not to be used for training, for now, and assuming you take them at their word, but AFAIK there is no way to stop them doing RAG on your content without destroying your SEO in the process.

boredatoms 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do people still get organic search traffic from google?

lazyfanatic42 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow, they really got folks by the short hairs if that is true...

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mrbungie 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The most fun fact about all the developments post-ChatGPT is that people apparently forgot that Google was doing actual AI before AI meant (only) ML and GenAI/LLMs, and they were top players at it.

Arguably main OpenAI raison d'être was to be a counterweight to that pre-2023 Google AI dominance. But I'd also argue that OpenAI lost its way.

lvl155 6 hours ago | parent [-]

And they forgot to pay those people so most of them left.

OccamsMirror 6 hours ago | parent [-]

To be fair, they weren't increasing Ads revenue.

lvl155 6 hours ago | parent [-]

They literally gave away their secret sauce to OpenAI and pretended like it wasn’t a big opportunity.

mrbungie 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Just as expected from a big firm with slower organizational speed. They can afford to make those mistakes.