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watwut 3 hours ago

Drug addiction, loneliness and depression are masculinity instead of mental health problems? What about suicide?

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mosura 3 hours ago | parent [-]

All entirely standard male behaviors.

Just look at history for 30 seconds.

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Starman_Jones 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You should probably reconsider putting loneliness and depression on a pedestal here.

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mosura 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Where is this happening?

The whole point is calling them “mental health problems” infers there is something systematically wrong with them as opposed to the obvious result of putting men in modern society.

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watwut 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Previously you said they are basically traditional masculinity and what men always were. Now they are result of modern society?

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mosura 3 hours ago | parent [-]

A man lives by himself in the woods: is he lonely or depressed?

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jacquesm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are those the only two options? If you think the answer is yes then that suggests a moment of reflection.

	▲	mosura 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I would suggest he is neither.

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pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe you should ask him?

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krapp 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's entirely possible.

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watwut 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Mental health issues existing in the past does not mean they are not mental health issues. Besides, most men were neither alcoholics, depressed nor lonely.

Loneliness in particular is neither specifically masculine (like, is not at all specifically masculine, neither in history nor now). Nor is there a reason to believe was more or equal amount of it in the past ... when men were part of in person group pretty much regardless of what they were doing.