The absolute state of Github is that I use it dozens of times a day and it works flawlessly, for free, with intermittent outages.

Microsoft is doing more with Github than I can say for most of their products. I won't go to bat for the Xbox or Windows teams, but Github is... fine. Almost offensively usable.

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davidsainez 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> works flawlessly

> intermittent outages

Those seem like conflicting statements to me. Last outage was only 13 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45915731.

Also, there have been increasing reports of open source maintainers dealing with LLM generated PRs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46039274. GitHub seems perfectly positioned to help manage that issue, but in all likelihood will do nothing about it: '"Either you have to embrace the Al, or you get out of your career," Dohmke wrote, citing one of the developers who GitHub interviewed.'

I used to help maintain a popular open source library and I do not envy what open source maintainers are now up against.

	▲	xeonmc 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		GitHub: 60% of the time, it works every time.

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mason_mpls 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given the trajectory of Microsoft products it stands to reason Github’s future is uncertain. Also Git is ultimately a hosting platform that any competent software shop can recreate; the people behind the platform matter more than the platform itself.

	▲	gen220 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		As someone who is intimately familiar with GitHub’s data models, I wouldn’t say that replacing it is so technically trivial. But even then, you are right that that the moat of social cachet and implicit trust is still more valuable than the moat of technical implementation.
	▲	DeepYogurt 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		True eventually, but not today

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p2detar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My thinking as well. If people don’t like Microsoft, the last place to start their quixotic adventure would be GitHub.

I don’t use Azure or Windows. At work I push against Teams and actively try to persuade customers not to use Microsoft products. The reason isn’t even ideological - most of the time their products suck and the dev support is bad. VScode may be an exception, I’ll give them that.

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shevy-java 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So you are ok with 2FA, right? If you contribute code there.

Now - what if you are not ok with it? What can you do?

> Almost offensively usable

I think you conflate two points here. One is how useable github is. The other is: control. At which point are you no longer ok with what a private company does? This is not solely about Microsoft alone by the way.

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healsdata 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> intermittent outages

The outages have gone from "almost every Friday" to "several times per week".