| ▲ | citizenpaul 9 hours ago |
| How do you complain and go to another hotel if every single hotel is owned by four companies that are colluding together to do the same thing. This ignores the very obvious fact that you may not want to search for a hotel at 2AM in a strange city when you are exhausted. Keep making excuses for your masters though, this is the world you live in. Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go to. Enshittification is not just for apps anymore. |
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| ▲ | WheatMillington 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's hard to understand what you want here... No one is making excuses for the hotels? Literally "don't stay there, go somewhere else, and tell everyone you know" is as much power as an individual can possibly muster in this situation. Why do you think this is "making excuses for your masters"? What is your solution? |
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| ▲ | amadiver 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > don't stay there, go somewhere else, and tell everyone you know You might be very comfortable sharing the story about the situation, but I hope you can appreciate that not everyone else would be. | |
| ▲ | aaomidi 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Regulation is when individual action isn’t enough. Regulation is a form of collective action. | | |
| ▲ | kijin 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And it doesn't even need to be government regulation. The hospitality industry has self-imposed standards as to what kind of amenities a facility should have in order to rate as a two-star hotel, three-star hotel, etc. Things like TV, shampoo, and hair dryer are on that list. If customers make enough noise about bathroom doors, the rating organizations might actually add that as a requirement. | | |
| ▲ | aaomidi 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yep! Government regulation is basically when the industry puts their heads way too far into the sand. |
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| ▲ | kortilla 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Regulation isn’t a collective action, at least not in the US. People don’t regulate hotels will ballot measures so you’re left with whatever the whims are of some representative. |
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| ▲ | inopinatus 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The mistake is assuming we have to act as individuals. | |
| ▲ | venturecruelty 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Turns out, society can actually do things collectively when a bunch of people work together instead of just pulling the libertarian "move your family into the woods and suffer" lever that's so popular online. |
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| ▲ | toast0 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go to. Best Western, Choice, Wyndham, IHG (typo?), Accor, Blackstone (Motel6), Radisson, Red Lion, Red Roof. Etc. There's lots of choices. Many (most?) hotels are franchises and the name on the hotel can change. I haven't run into a hotel with no bathroom door yet, but I only have 2-3 stays a year and one is usually in the same hotel every year. I have noticed housekeeping creeping back up to mostly every day though. |
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| ▲ | ghaff 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I was a bit surprised that a Marriott property I was staying in in NYC a couple weeks ago actually had daily housekeeping service. I didn't really care but hadn't seen that in a while. | | |
| ▲ | verst 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Very common. Every Autograph Collection, Luxury Collection, JW Marriott, Marriott, Westin, W, St Regis, Le Meridien, etc has daily housekeeping - and many of those brands / collections have turn down service too. | |
| ▲ | themerone 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm very surprised that you find this surprising. Do you mostly stay at Airbnb? I expect this at any traditional hotel in the US. | | |
| ▲ | ghaff 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I have stayed in Airbnb once in my life. I find very few hotels, including the big chains--and even leaving aside serviced apartments--do daily room service these days. | |
| ▲ | kortilla 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Have you been… not traveling since COVID? Marriott and Hilton cut daily housekeeping during that period and then kept that by default at many properties (at least in the western US). You have to request it special and some properties still won’t make the bed daily even with a request. They’ll just bring extra towels. | |
| ▲ | astura 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hotels (at least the major ones) will always clean your room daily if you ask them to. The "new" part is that sometimes you have to ask because some hotels (especially since COVID) have moved to a more on-demand/personalized cleaning schedule rather than cleaning everyday by default. I personally prefer on-demand. |
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| ▲ | the_af 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What's the explanation for housekeeping? I actually prefer very little to no housekeeping, especially for short stays. | | |
| ▲ | ghaff 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Historically housekeeping was daily and it largely went away during COVID. These days, some people see scaled-back housekeeping as sort of a ripoff while others of us are fine without the sometimes interruptions. | | |
| ▲ | Nextgrid 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | > while others of us are fine without the sometimes interruptions The "do not disturb" card is always there. You can always decline housekeeping, but it's nice to have it available (and it's not like prices went lower to compensate for the lack of it anyway). |
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| ▲ | venturecruelty 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well, since "laws" are outside the current Overton window, we could always do a hotel startup that becomes worse than the hotels we're trying to replace within ten years or so. |
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| ▲ | meowface 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've stayed at a lot of hotels. I have almost never been in one that didn't have a proper bathroom door. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I stay at Hilton properties whenever I can and they always seem to allow filters for number of beds. Not sure about bathroom doors though. |
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| ▲ | noduerme 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Eh, at 2am you ask a taxi driver for a local non-chain hotel and see where the night takes you. Honestly the endless ability of people to complain about corporate control when they're unwilling to try anything potentially sketchy is annoying. Don't like staying at the four companies? Ask a local or wander into somewhere and ask the front desk. Don't blame corporations for your lack of adventurism. |
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| ▲ | lotsofpulp 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go to. Technically, they own almost none of the hotels. The hotel owners buy the franchises, and hence follow the brand standards. |
