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embedding-shape 4 hours ago

Again, sucks to be in the US as a programmer today maybe, but this isn't true elsewhere in the world, and especially not if you already have at least some experience.

lm28469 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Definitely true in western Europe, and finding a job is extremely hard for the vast majority of non expert devs.

Of course if you're in south eastern europe or in south asia where all the jobs are being offshored you're having the time of your life.

embedding-shape 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Definitely true in western Europe, and finding a job is extremely hard for the vast majority of non expert devs.

I don't know what else to say except that hasn't been my experience personally, nor the experience of my acquaintances who've re-skilled to become programmers these last few years, in Western Europe.

lm28469 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Anecdotes are cool but we came up with a neat little thing known as statistics.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tech-job-postings-fall-across...

> Among the 27 countries analysed, European nations saw the steepest fall in tech job postings between 1 February 2020 and 31 October 2025,

> In absolute terms, the decline exceeded 40% in Switzerland (-46%) and the UK (-41%), with France (-39%) close behind.

> The United States showed a similar trend, with a decline of 35%. Austria (-34%), Sweden (-32%) and Germany (-30%) were also at comparable levels.

amrocha 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you base your entire worldview purely on your own personal experience?

embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you suffer from reading comprehension issues?

amrocha 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s ok to admit that you were wrong. Your experience is good, but the industry is doing very poorly right now. I showed you data to back that up. Someone else posted data about Europe.

Don’t close your eyes and plug your ears and pretend you didn’t hear anything.

MattRix 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You seem to keep having to add more and more qualifiers to your statements…

nosianu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I only see one. "Outside the US" was the starting proposition, then they only added "experienced".