Yeah, to expand on that... Flex is, well, flexible, whereas Grid is more rigid like a table. The rigidity of Grid allows you to span rows and columns (2D) just like you can with table cells (colspan/rowspan). Grid is usually used at a macro level for its more deterministic layout (no unintuitive flex quirks), while flex is usually used to lay things out at a component level where you don't care that the next row of items isn't perfectly aligned with the ones above (you will often see it hold some buttons or badges, or vertically align text to an icon), and Grid setting the layout of the app and container components (modals, cards, etc).

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taftster 4 hours ago | parent [-]

So is Grid supposed to be what we should use to replace the html <table> element? That I still use to this day for layouts because CSS still sucks to me?

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psygn89 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Use <table> for tabular data, but for layout you should use grid. Grid doesn't have it's own element like table does, so you have to use css to apply that display to a div.

CSS takes a bit of time to understand. It's cascading nature and how certain properties behave differently based on the html structure or display type or direction makes it tricky. I don't blame you sticking with tables for layouts for yourself - making layouts with floats was a pain. Bootstrap hid a lot of the layout pain. But today we have flex and grid to help us realize our layouts.

	▲	antod 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		There were back in CSS 2 display values for table, table cell, table row etc which meant you could make divs or other block elements layout like tables did. Of course it wasn't supported in a certain browser with 90% market share.

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paulhebert 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No. The table is meant to hold tabular data like a spreadsheet. It has special behavior for people who use tools like screen readers because they have vision impairment.

CSS grid is a powerful layout tool. If you think CSS sucks I encourage you to brush up on the newer developments. Flex box and grid and many other newer tools solve a lot of the classic pain points with CSS and make it a pleasure to use if you invest the time to learn it