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kulahan 4 hours ago

I think it's inaccurate to call it a dumbing-down. It's more correct to label it as the largest stratification of education we've ever seen.

The smartest kids are smarter than ever before. They're absolutely rocking the house. The problem is that the "middle class has been gutted". Kids who were kinda smart, or kinda dumb, are now lumped in with kids who probably need Individual Education Plans (IEPs). This lowers the educational standard for almost all students - though of course the most well-off among us (educationally, rather than monetarily) are not only not suffering, they're thriving.

TexanFeller 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The smartest kids are smarter than ever before

Only if they’re wealthy or get extremely lucky and live near a randomly good school. By many metrics I was the smartest in my class, but my family had little money and lived in a rural area with a single underfunded school. I spent my days in class with kids that were still struggling to sound out “cat” in third grade. A few times a week I got to spend an hour in “gifted” class but that was mostly art projects, nothing that would help make up for the rest of the day being wasted.

drivebyhooting 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How are they rocking the house?

The standard public Chinese education turns out better 90th percentile than our 99.9th percentile house rockers.

How to confirm this? Talk to PIs and others hiring researchers. Home grown talent doesn’t even come close. It’s very upsetting.

Joel_Mckay 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>The smartest kids are smarter than ever before.

That is provably incorrect, as since Victorian times people lost around 14 to 23 IQ points on average. Notably, the corrected scores have continued on a downward trend for the past century.

People are not getting smarter, as recent events have shown. =3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMHfBobgLSI