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retskrad 4 hours ago

Speaking of IQ, when I listen to interviews and podcasts of supposed high IQ people like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, I struggle to see signs of intelligence (not saying that they don’t have above average IQ). I find that these 2 have a hard time sifting through the noise (competing thoughts) in their head to get to want they want to say (the signal).

When I listen to Steve Jobs, I hear someone who has very strong ability to sift through noise. So Jobs couldn’t see engineering in a new way like Elon does but Elon couldn’t do what Jobs did either.

Regarding Zuckerberg, from what I’ve read he is the Bill Gates type where he has the traditional variant of high IQ, aka raw hardware/horsepower but lower on creativity/imagination side.

So intelligence seems to have different shapes and sizes.

kstrauser 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Don't read this as a defense of Zuck or Musk, but some of the most brilliant people I've known sometimes had trouble getting thoughts out. It wasn't that they couldn't see their goal, but that how they thought of it was changing even as the words were leaving their mouths. Have you ever tried to explain while you were still working it out in your head? "See, it's kind of like A..., except that one part is closer to B, and that's interesting because, well, B and C have a relationship that's closer than A and C, so it might be more appropriate to say it's more C-like, except where A is..."

That didn't mean they were unintelligent. It meant that them trying to explain the flurry of ideas in their head was like me trying to type with mittens.

Of course, knuckleheads can also sound like that, but for different reasons. That kind of rambling doesn't imply that the speaker is a dumbass. It definitely doesn't guarantee that they're a genius.

retskrad 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Interesting perspective, thanks