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satisfice a day ago

Systematic decimation of test teams, elimination of test managers, and contemptuous treatment of the role of tester over the past 40 years has not yet led to a more responsible software industry. But maybe if we started burning testers at the stake all these problems will go away?

icedchai a day ago | parent [-]

Many specialties were eliminated / absorbed over the past few decades. I started working almost 30 years ago. Today, I rarely see dedicated testers, just like I rarely see dedicated DBAs. Sysadmins went away with the "DevOps" movement. Now they are cloud engineers who are more likely to understand a vendor-specific implementation than networking fundamentals.

satisfice 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Except testers are needed. Testing is not merely a technical role. It's a social role. It's a commitment to think differently from the rest of the team. We do this because that provides insurance against complacency.

But, by the nature of testing, we testers are outsiders. No one is fully comfortable with a tester in the room, unless they are more afraid of failure than irritation.