Anything built with Microsoft Power Apps.

It boggles the mind that they built a "low code" interface to designing websites, with the express purpose of making it easy to use...

..and then used Excel formulas of all things as the basis for its scripting language.

It's as if they wanted these things to be as clunky and spaghettified as possible.

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psunavy03 5 hours ago | parent [-]

At some point, doing things the "low code/no code" way turns out to be more painful than just . . . writing code.

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dylan604 5 hours ago | parent [-]

for those that can write code. if you can't write code, the more painful way is just the way

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jimbokun 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of those people end up writing code without realizing they’re writing code.

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dylan604 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know the MS offering, but places like Wix/Square or using WordPress definitely do not end up with the user writing code.

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Sohcahtoa82 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Instead, you end up installing an endless list of plugins that are sometimes so poorly written that I've decided to call WordPress "RCE-as-a-Service".

	▲	dylan604 10 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		that just sounds more like a case of square peg and a round hole. Yes, WP is a nightmare just like NPM and its ilk are to me as well. Adding WP in my list was fraught for this level of response, and I realize now I should have left it off the list. It really doesn't do much for moving the conversation in the right direction

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psunavy03 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's my point. At some point, people's fear of learning code is causing them to do things in ways that are unnecessary and overcomplicated, which is quite a bit ironic.

	▲	dylan604 12 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You say fear. I say unnecessary for task at hand. My mom doesn't need to learn how to code to make a website for her florist. She just needs a site that can host some basic information like contact info, gallery of example images, and maybe some cheesy "about" page that people feel like is oh so important. We're obviously reading a developer centric forum where people seem to have a hard time seeing things from anything other than a developer's point of view. Have hammer, everything is a nail situation. People just not wanting to become a coder isn't because they are scared of it. They just don't want to do it. I don't want to be a florist. I don't go bitching to florists that there's not an easy way to make floral arrangements without learning basics nor does it make me scared of it. Whatever "fear" you want to imply really makes you sound out of touch with non-developers.