| ▲ | ortusdux 5 hours ago |
| Is there a 'teaching the test' element to this? Does more exposure to education increase your ability to take a standardized test? |
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| ▲ | NewEntryHN 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Of course. IQ tests measures nothing more than the ability to pass an IQ test, which is proxied by a lot of things such as western culture, education, propensity to cram tests, etc. |
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| ▲ | tptacek 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We don't know. |
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| ▲ | powerclue 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We do know that response to difficulty influences performance in iq testing: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10990577/ This study found that adding or removing rewards for performing well can pretty dramatically impact performance. "it is unclear to what extent the positive manifold reported in intelligence research since Spearman (1904) might be explained not through a shared component of intellectual capacity, but through a shared component of effort or time investment in testing tasks." So, yes, we don't know, but the ways we don't know should also include "we don't know if iq testing is even measuring intelligence rather than stick-to-it-ness". | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I mean I agree with that too! I would just bucket all this under "we don't know". :) |
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| ▲ | nitwit005 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | We do know that practice taking tests makes you better at taking tests. Kids get tutored in that manner every day, and it works. | | |
| ▲ | tptacek 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sorry, you're right, I was reading "standardized test" as a rhetorical claim about IQ tests in particular. (I also believe those are trainable, but I'm much less certain of the science). |
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| ▲ | burnt-resistor 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Define "more exposure to education". ;) Also, NCBLA standardized testing has demonstrably ruined education in America. |
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| ▲ | DrewRWx 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| More exposure to upper middle-class culture increases ones ability to take IQ tests. |
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| ▲ | PunchyHamster 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think golf and tennis increases IQ | | |
| ▲ | kulahan 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He's saying that low-class culture does not include quality education or quality influencers. Note that I'm not using influencer in the traditional sense here; I'm referring to anyone - dads, friends, acquaintances - who influences the child. | |
| ▲ | morshu9001 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Gluten reduces IQ (jk) | | |
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