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jrm4 2 hours ago

Absolutely wild that this isn't bigger news. This should be the front page of every major news network.

phantasmish an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It’s widely known and reported this is happening. I guess this might get the message to people in the back who aren’t paying attention… but given we’ve had most of a decade of off-and-on coverage of this, anyone left is probably unreachable, and a bunch of them have been primed to ignore this exact sort of headline as “fake news”.

hbosch an hour ago | parent [-]

>It’s widely known and reported this is happening.

I am not sure it's "widely known and reported" that the official Twitter account for the Department of Homeland Security was created in, and is run from, Israel.

Aarostotle an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Given the sibling comment here, I am wondering if you’ve fallen for a fake screenshot. I hope you did not make this up.

jsheard an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah that DHS screenshot is fake. If you boost the exposure there's conspicuous gaps in the JPEG artifacts around the fields where they were edited.

They would have got away with it if they just used Inspect Element!

hbosch an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The same head of product quoted in the sib comment admits that "for a small set of accounts the location data was incorrect". Given what we know about Twitter's relationship with the government and this administration in particular, you're simply left to do with that information what you will.

I personally do not trust Twitter, or the government, very much. I also would not be surprised if some government accounts were created at various embassies around the world or through strategic VPN networks, or if general business is conducted through a darknet-like node system which includes allied endpoints. To me those are more plausible.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-]

> I personally do not trust Twitter, or the government, very much

Then don’t conclude—much less spread as “known”—foreign interference from Twitter/X’s purported location data about the government.

redindian75 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

after it was reported/recorded, X "fixed" it by making .gov accounts untrackable. So now it doesnt show Israel anymore (and MAGA accounts now have an opportunity to scream fake news)

harrisonjackson an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1992382852328255743?s=20

> This is fake news. Location was not available on any gray check account at any point. Furthermore, the DHS has only shown IPs from the United States since account creation.

- head of product @x

Not to discount the impact of foreign powers over social media but maybe don't spread this misinformation.

blitzar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Blink twice if you are in danger.

hbosch an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Does this make the fact that it showed as Israel, was disabled, and is now "corrected", mean that this feature is good or bad?

Either we can trust all location data all the time, or we can trust none of it. We cannot expect Nikita Bier to swoop in on every suspicious tweet and try to educate us on IP range changes and DNS glitches or whatever.

Furthermore is it more likely that a small set of special accounts seemingly never collected location data on signup, or that for a small number of accounts X simply modified that data post-hoc?

MayeulC an hour ago | parent [-]

> the fact that it showed as Israel

Please re-read. That never happened.

hbosch an hour ago | parent [-]

It may have happened. There are already many users saying their "created in" locations were incorrect. Thus the rest of my comment: trust is binary. We can either be 100% certain the data is correct, or we must assume it is never correct.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-]

> trust is binary. We can either be 100% certain the data is correct, or we must assume it is never correct

You’re mixing up trust and faith.

rtkwe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's been known for a while this is just verification. Accounts give themselves away all the time accidentally through phrases or tells. eg: A tweet from an account claiming to be from the US talking about Texas succession that mentions 'warm water ports', very few people care or think about that because all the ports on the continental US don't freeze over in the winter. (In fact very few countries do because most have as many warm water ports as they need, one of the few with significant issues with this is... Russia)

yetihehe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No one likes to be the bad messenger saying to Americans that they were fooled and all that hatred against their opponents (opposite party) was actually induced, not born out of their own superiority.

an0malous an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s going to get flagged off of HN front page within the hour like it did the last two times someone posted about it

yetihehe 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It already disappeared from front page. Your comment was 45 minutes old when I was writing this.

ALittleSlow 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Tall tale signs of a foreign influence campaign cover up, watch your 6

lesuorac an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why?

Govs doing influence campaigns was admitted during the twitter files [1]. While it's the US-relationship, Twitter is a global company so they're going to have other country relationships.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files#Nos._8%E2%80%939...

epistasis an hour ago | parent | next [-]

First, the government wasn't doing influence campaigns, and the "Twitter Files" had all been reported before, it was just a PR campaign for Musk to try to lessen trust among the populace.

Second, this is about foreign influence driving a lot of the self-destructive politics in the US. Right now the US is going through economic and political destruction a lot like Brexit, and it should be no surprise that it's being lead by those outside of the US who want to make the US weaker.

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simonw an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I doubt most of this is foreign government influence campaigns. I think it's more that Twitter will pay you to post clickbait, and if you are in Africa or many parts of Asia the amount you can earn is significant.

There was some great reporting about Macedonian teenagers doing this kind of thing back in 2016 - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fake-news-how-partying-ma... - it was actually the origin of the term "fake news" before Trump redefined it to mean any mainstream media coverage that he didn't like.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> wild that this isn't bigger news

Give it time.

So far, we only know that X’s “About This Account” feature says a number of accounts, “the most noticeable and largest group” being “those reporting to be Trump fans,” are from suspicious locations.

We don’t know if X fucked up. We don’t know what fraction are via VPN. We don’t know if this Substack author is considering a biased sample. It may be individual profiteers. It could be one, or multiple, coördinated campaigns. X may be complicit or clueless.

I’d be surprised if serious journalists aren’t tasked on this. But it’s going to need to be one of the papers with investigative resources, i.e. ones with paying subscribers, and I’m not seeing anything here that screams this should be a top priority right now versus any time between now and the midterms, nor that it will be remotely easy doing the needed verifications.

(That said, the premise is incorrect. In limited cases, it’s gaining traction [1].)

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2025/11/x-about-this-...

overrun11 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That people from third world countries are making slop political accounts to make money? Hardly a news story at all

postflopclarity an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean it's been pretty obvious for a while...

the people who would care already knew about this. the people who didn't know about this don't care (or are in denial).

numpad0 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Musk's like a transparent kid these days. Anything he touches seem to disappear from media - there is such thing as bad publicity after all, I guess.

NuclearPM an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hard to compete with leaders being accused of raping, corruption, and and calling for execution of political opponents for newsworthiness.

dogleash 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure it's flashy, however it's just confirmation of what should have been everyone's default operating assumption. That twitter has been and always will be used as a tool of influence campaigns, both foreign and domestic.

I get the realpolitik of: this is bad and Trump is bad therefore let's make hay while the sun is shining. In general tho, it's the consequence of ignoring mental hygiene w/r/t influence when we assumed it was "just" telling us what brand of sugar water to buy alongside lunch.

Fricken an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We've known of foreign influence campaigns targeting Americans on social media for a long time. A significant number of HN users have a vested interest in pretending it isn't the case. Some of them are making money off it. Others are too proud to entertain the notion that they might be the gullible victims of rage-bait and disinformation. Posts on the subject usually gets flagged pretty quick, but it's getting harder to ignore the truth.

dstroot an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They (major news networks) are owned by Trump friendlies (Bezos/WaPo, Soon-Shiong/LAT, etc.) or they are afraid of Trump’s influence.

mschuster91 an hour ago | parent [-]

Don't know why you're being downvoted. Ever since Trump first silenced critics by abusing the authority of his office (or threatening to do so), it is painfully obvious how many large media houses shy away from all-too-blatant reporting.

chneu an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Most of this, to some degree, has been well established for a while.

American Republicans have relied heavily on foreign interference to achieve their goals. From social media manipulation to laundering illegal political bribes, Republicans have been doing it.

jrm4 an hour ago | parent [-]

100%, but the clear proof afforded by Elon should be the opportunity to really put it out there.