This is great, I wish tech giants focused more on latency.

Gmail, Notion, Facebook, are painfully slow on my high-end laptop with gigabit ethernet. Something is wrong in our modern engineering culture.

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koakuma-chan 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Of course. Anything that has greedy and/or non-technical management will be slow.

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DarkNova6 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the problem is a lack of "engineering culture".

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PaulHoule 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People experience latency but if you “saw like a corporation” you could only see throughput and never latency.

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CuriouslyC 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Obviously not with Gmail/Facebook, in that case it's just 100% incentive misalignment.

The others, probably, VCs are incentivized to fund the people who allocate the most resources towards growth and marketing, as long as the app isn't actively on fire investors will actively push you away from allocating resources to make your tech good.

	▲	umanwizard 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You would be surprised at how bad the “engineering culture” is at meta. There are surely people who care about page load latency but they are a tiny minority.

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wkjagt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I recently started looking for a new(er) laptop, because it often felt slow. But I started looking at when it was slow, and it was mostly when using things like GMail. I guess my feeling was "if my laptop isn't even fast enough for email, it's time to upgrade". But doing things I actually care about (coding, compiling) it's actually totally fine, so I'm going to hold on to it a bit longer.

	▲	Sanygeek 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		This is the exact feeling I had. My 2019 intel MacBook Pro has 12 cores, 32gb ram and a 1TB hard drive. Yet, most consumer web apps like Gmail, Outlook and Teams are excruciatingly slow. What is surprising is that a few years ago, these apps weren’t so terrible on this exact hardware. I’m convinced that there’s an enormous amount of bloat right at the application framework level. I finally caved and bought a new M series Mac and the apps are much snappier. But this is simply because the hardware is wicked fast and not because the software got any better. I really wish consumer apps cared less about user retention and focused more on user empowerment.

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stu2421 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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