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imsurajkadam 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Even if you learn to Host, there are many other services that are going to get relied on those centralised platforms, so if you are thinking to Host, every single thing on your own, then it is going to be more work than you can even imagine and definitely super hard to organise as well

	▲	DANmode 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Anything.

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rurban 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you host you are running on my cPanel SW. 70% of the internet is doing that. Also a kinda centralized point of failure, but I didn't hear of any bugs in the last 14 years.

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randallsquared 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Have you tried that? I gave up on hosting my own email server seven or eight years ago, after it became clear that there would be an endless fight with various entities to accept my mail. Hosting a webserver without the expectation that you'll need some high powered DDOS defense seems naive, in the current day, and good luck doing that with a server or two.

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IgorPartola 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I have never hosted my own email. It took me roughly a day to set it up on a vanilla FreeBSD install running on Vultr’s free tier plan and it has been running flawlessly for nearly a year. I did not use AI at all, just the FreeBSD, Postfix, and Dovecot’s handbooks. I do have a fair bit of Linux admin and development experience but all in all this has been a weirdly painless experience.

If you don’t love this approach, Mail-in-a-box works incredibly well even if the author of all the Python code behind it insists on using tabs instead of spaces :)

And you can always grab a really good deal from a small hosting company, likely with decades of experience in what they do, via LowEndBox/LowEndTalk. The deal would likely blow AWS/DO/Vultr/Google Cloud out of the water in terms of value. I have been snagging deals from there for ages and I lost a virtual host twice. Once was a new company that turned out to be shady and another was when I rented a VPS in Cairo and a revolution broke out. They brought everything back up after a couple of months.

For example I just bought a lifetime email hosting system with 250GB of storage, email, video, full office suite, calendar, contacts, and file storage for $75. Configuration here is down to setting the DNS records they give you and adding users. Company behind it has been around for ages and is one of the best regarded in the LET community.

	▲	randallsquared 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I ran my own mail server from 1998 through 2019, and set up a FreeBSD mail server as one of my first contract jobs in 1998 or 1999. I used Sendmail, Exim, Postfix, and qmail at various times. I switched to mail-in-a-box in 2014, and contributed a few minor fixes, then (which I'd forgotten about until I idly looked to see, just now). Throughout 20 years of running my own mail server for companies, friends, and myself, the additional effort to get commercially-run mail servers to accept mail was both annoying and random ("oh, look, hosted Outlook has started rejecting our mail again..."), and sometimes they don't even send a standard response but just "accept" and blackhole the email. Eventually you find out that someone else in the /24 you're in at Rackspace or DigitalOcean is happily running an open relay, and that's why your IP is having problems. Or any of a dozen similar things. In 2019, having gotten very tired of this, I gave up and moved my mail handling to Amazon Workmail and SMS, and after setting it up properly once, it's been trouble-free and maintenance-free for half a decade. Compared to some solutions, it's expensive, but not in absolute terms.
	▲	dmoy 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's not insurmountable to set up initially. And when you get email denied from whatever org (your lawyer, your mom, some random business, whatever), each individual one isn't insurmountable to fix. It does get old after awhile. It also depends on how much you are emailing, and who. If it's always the same set of known entities, you might be totally fine with self hosting. Someone else who's regularly emailing a lot of new people or businesses might incur a lot of overhead. At least worth more than their time than a fastmail or protonmail subscription or whatever.