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duxup 2 hours ago

I never quite "got" twitter, it was never fun for me to participate on. It's telling / disturbing that folks had such trust in random accounts ...

afavour 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s an interesting phenomenon. I don’t think people en masse have trust in any of these accounts. But when your feed is filled with the kind of stuff they say day in day out it still affects your overall perspective of the world. “No smoke without fire” on a subconscious level.

brandensilva 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

One of the many reasons why I try and bombard myself with different views and perspectives. Foreign vs domestic. Left vs right. Personal vs official.

I don't do this with every topic unless I'm interested in discussing something just so I'm more informed just to reduce bias.

laxd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've felt it through my guilty pleasure of scrolling instagram reels periodically. They've obviously changed their algorithm from time to time and it's crazy how I've intermittently have gotten endless right wing stuff and leftist ridiculing and thinking there's a lot good points. Then it's suddenly just convincing leftist material again or at best you're-all-dumb content.

It's really fucked how the online content providers have moved from letting you seek out whatever you might fancy towards deciding what you're going to see. "Search" doesn't even seem like an important feature anymore many places.

throwaway48476 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The internet has created low intentionality people.

hennell 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

hacker news, Reddit and similar have always been about following subjects or topics you like, getting the latest discussion in a field of your interest. twitter was all about following people not topics, so you'd get a wider range of topics, but you tended to focus on accounts more and give more weight to specific users than you might here.

If you followed a variety of people it was quite addictive - so many celebrities or other notable people meant you got actual "first hand news", and it was fun seeing everyone join in on silly jokes and games and whatever, that doesn't hit quite as hard when it's just random usernames not "people".

But it suffered for that success, individual voices got drowned out in favour of the big names, the main way to get noticed becoming more controversial statements, and the wildly different views becoming less free flowing discussion and more constant arguments.

It was fun for a while if you followed fun people, but I think the incentives of such systems means it was always going to collapse as people worked out how to manipulate it.

spprashant 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For a long time, I did not get twitter either. But it seems to be the only popular platform where the academics and intellectual class want to hangout. Economists, researchers, policy wonks prefer posting on twitter over any other social platform.

Dan_- 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Many of those people have moved to Bluesky. Which has its own issues.

shoobiedoo 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It is also the only way to get my city's public transport system to reply to queries about why a bus is extremely late, when/if it is coming. I always get a nice polite reply because it's publicly available. If I call I get stonewalled with endless call center rerouting eventually leading to a dial tone

gonzobonzo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All social media (including HN) is horrible in some ways. And they all suffer from too many people being overly credulous to random comments.

But the problem with over credulity goes far beyond social media. I've gotten strong push back for telling people they shouldn't trust Wikipedia and should look at primary sources themselves.

ebbi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My main use case is to get up-to-date news on things that mainstream media doesn't cover accurately.

And to be fair, a lot of these accounts that are exposed as grifters were called out as such for a while now. And most of them were so obviously griftery that the only ones that followed them were those that were already so deeply entrenched in their echo chamber.

It's funny that they're explicitly being exposed now though!

JoshTriplett 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> My main use case is to get up-to-date news on things that mainstream media doesn't cover accurately.

Or hasn't covered yet. It's interesting to watch the cycle of "shows up on social media" then "shows up in industry-specific press" then "shows up in mainstream press", with lag in each step.

These days, Fediverse is providing the same thing for some industries. You see stuff show up there first, then show up on X and industry press a little later, then mainstream press a little later.

awesome_dude 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think that almost every platform has gone through a period where the latest breaking news was being published.. as it happened

IRC

Usenet

Reddit

Facebook (live)

Twitter

ok123456 an hour ago | parent [-]

IRC is fine.

ecoled_ame 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s an online bar to meet girls and flex your creativity.

malfist 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If you believe those girls fawning over your creativity are real, then I've got a link for hot single milfs in your area wanting to talk to you.

ecoled_ame an hour ago | parent [-]

They’re not really fawning over me. They just like to hang out on twitter. It has pretty colors and cool graphics. I mean, especially compared to HackerNews. I mean, HN is a bastion of logic and cool-headed discussion, but to many girls they just see a boring text website colored orange and beige.

ceejayoz an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The sort of people who think "girls need colorful websites and a bunch of them are friends with me on Twitter" are the same ones who think "that stripper really likes me".

lazide an hour ago | parent [-]

Have you met most 20 something girls? They’ll be on insta because it has even better colors, but some do hang out on X.

Also, strippers do actually like dudes sometimes.

Not me, of course, but a buddy of mine almost married one.

Until she almost killed him trying to stab him in the crotch because she thought he was going to cheat on her.

gnerd00 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

this is blatantly biased -- most idiots here are not girls at all ! /s

PKop 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of people did not have trust and have been asking for this country-of-origin feature for years. Better would be if they bring back country of initial account creation, or some way to identify VPN usage.

awesome_dude 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably the thing I loved about it most was the fact that I could talk directly with people that I felt had a real impact in the world

Scientists/Researchers

Journalists

Activists

Politicians

Subject Matter Experts (for the fields I am interested in)

There were (when I was using it) a large number of "troll" accounts, and bots, but it was normally easy to distinguish the wheat from the chaff

You could also engage in meaningful conversations with complete strangers - because, like Usenet, the rules for debate were widely adopted, and transgression results in shunning (something that I rarely see beyond twitter to be honest)

macintux 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep, I effectively landed my favorite job by engaging with the Erlang community on Twitter. I miss it, but it just got to be too toxic during the 2016 election cycle (in fairness, everything was too toxic then, and it hasn’t gotten better since).

awesome_dude 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think that ALL communities become toxic as they grow

I often hear that one community, or another, is "really good, not toxic at all, which is true when it starts (for tech, whilst it's "new" and everyone is still interested in figuring out how it works, sharing their learnings, and actively working to encourage people to also take interest)

Then idealism works it way in - this community is the greatest that every existed ever - and whatever it is centred is the best at whatever

Then - all other things are bad, you're <something bad> if you think otherwise

And, boom, toxicity starts to abound

For me, I've seen it so many times, whether in motorised transport (Motorcycles vs cars, then Japanese bikes vs British/European/American then individual brands (eg Triumph vs Norton), or even /style/ of bike (Oh you ride a sport bike, when clearly a cruiser is better...))

In the tech scene it's been Unix vs Microsoft, then Microsoft vs Linux or Apple, and then... well no doubt you've seen it too

jeffbee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It is basically two totally distinct products: the "Following" feed that you can make it as you like, and the "For You" that is just a stream of the stupidest posts imaginable by people you don't know.