| ▲ | agentifysh 2 hours ago |
| X obviously isn't the only platform where this is taking place and it is curious as to why they rolled it back. how open are you to a US citizen verified town square online? You'd have to scan your passport or driver license to post memes and stuff. |
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| ▲ | samrus 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| It doesnt have to be US citizen only. It just has to be who they are claiming to be. If someone in india or europe wants to comment on foreign politics, thats fine. They just shouldnt be able to pretend they are from the US or anywhere else |
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| ▲ | 8note 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| if a guy in india can make great MAGA posts, is that really a problem? its got the followers because the followers want to read and reshare it. id maybe like to see the location of origin as a pie chart on the followers list, as well as on what theyre following, but if the idea is good(for whatever definition if good) is being american even particularly relevant? i dont think the random guy in indiana's opinions on Mamdani are any more relevant than a random guy in nigeria's. |
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| ▲ | iamnothere 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > how open are you to a US citizen verified town square online? You'd have to scan your passport or driver license to post memes and stuff. I had this same idea before and it’s not terrible. If it guaranteed user privacy by using an external identification service (ID.me?), it might get some attention. You would likely have to reverify accounts every 6 months or so to limit sales of accounts, and you would need to prevent sock puppets somehow. If you allow pseudonymity you would get some interesting dynamic conversations, while if you enforced a real name policy I think it would end up like a ghost town version of LinkedIn. (Many people don’t want to be honest on a “face” account.) The biggest problem with current pseudonymous networks like X/Twitter is you have no idea if the other person really has a stake in the discussion. Also, if ID were verified and you could somehow determine that a person has previously registered for the service, bans would have teeth and true bad actors would eventually be expelled. It would be better to have a forgiving suspension/ban policy because of this, with gradually increasing penalties and reasonable appeals in case of moderation mistakes. |
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| ▲ | tracerbulletx 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The propaganda apparatus will adapt if that becomes common so its not a permanent solution but it's nice for now. |
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| ▲ | Barbing an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yar. I wonder how much more expensive per post it would be for the bad guys if social networks required the most draconian verification technology, like a hardware-based biometric system you have to rent, and touch or sit near when posting on social media. And maybe you have to read comments you want to post to a camera. Even at such a ludicrous extreme, state actors would still find ways to pay people to astroturf. But how effective would extraordinary countermeasures like that be, I wonder. (Also I think high global incomes would greatly mitigate the issue by reducing the number of people willing to pretend they genuinely hold views of foreign adversaries and risk treasony kinda charges.) |
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > and it is curious as to why they rolled it back. I took a look at some X profile's I know where they're based, and a couple of other random, and I can see "Account based in" and "Connected via" for all of them, just logged in as a free user. Is it possible they enabled it back again? |
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| ▲ | mjbale116 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| All I want to know, is whether I am talking to an actual person.
And I also want that person to have a single account, not multiple ones |
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| ▲ | p1necone 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm not really surprised it was rolled back given Musks political leanings. I am surprised it was even added in the first place though, surely this outcome was obvious? |
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| ▲ | agentifysh 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think so because it seems both sides were engaged with non-American IPs running hugely popular accounts and it makes sense, why wouldn't you play both sides when you are paid for attention? I'm thinking Nikita is falling out with Elon as they both seem to have diverging goals with the platform. Advertisement revenues on X isn't that great and neither are conversions on X so you can't really get consistent payouts that match Youtube. Premium subscriptions don't bring in as much dough as advertising did during Twitter days. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > I don't think so because it seems both sides were engaged… One side has largely left X. | | |
| ▲ | pseudo0 an hour ago | parent [-] | | The stats don't bear that out. Bluesky has been losing momentum since the election, with its DAU dropping from around 3.5 million to under 1.5 million today. For comparison Twitter has over 100 million. Right-wing alternative platforms had similar issues sustaining momentum, despite a much stronger push factor (right-wing people kept getting banned). It's hard to overcome the power of Twitter's network effect. https://bluefacts.app/bluesky-user-growth?t=3m | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-] | | > For comparison Twitter has over 100 million. We're on a thread about widespread fake/inauthentic users on Twitter right now. I see very little reason to trust those numbers. |
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| ▲ | SV_BubbleTime 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >I'm thinking Nikita is falling out with Elon Hmm, interesting insight, what did they each say when you talked to them? |
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| ▲ | abirch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Seems like they would have had the statistics. It's a shame that they rolled it back. I'm not necessarily an Elon fan but I respected this feature immensely. | | | |
| ▲ | energy123 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's less about political leanings and more about profits. There's a reason Jack Dorsey didn't do this, or FB or Reddit. | | |
| ▲ | awesome_dude 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | And why IRC went from default showing IP information to cloaking | | |
| ▲ | Zak 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think that's mostly to do with script kiddies trying to DoS anyone they disagreed with. |
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| ▲ | bpodgursky 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It was rolled back temporarily because the first version had an "account created in country [X]" indicator that was found to be unreliable. The new version (which is active now) just has the country the user is currently in. | | |
| ▲ | p1necone an hour ago | parent [-] | | Sounds like this will stay useful for like a few days at best until these accounts work out what VPN to use to spoof the location properly. |
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| ▲ | api an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’d be willing to believe Musk was actually surprised. Like a lot of people into heavy political ideology he seems to vastly overestimate the number of people who think the same way about things. He seems to inhabit a serious echo chamber. | | |
| ▲ | lazide an hour ago | parent [-] | | When you have that much money, it’s actually hard to find someone who will tell you something you don’t want to hear that is actually true and isn’t doing it just to ragebait you or the like. And I don’t think he’s been trying all that hard either. |
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| ▲ | Muromec an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If only there was some kind of PKI that could attest the identity of the person. It's a shame, that US doesn't have a government capable of running it. |
