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| ▲ | FloorEgg 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I'm not author of parent. My impression of the joke is that intelligent and knowledgeable people willingly engage with social media and fall into treating what they see as truth, and then are shocked when they learn it's not truth. If the allegory of the cave is describing a journey from ignorant and incorrect beliefs to enlightened realizations, the parent is making a joke about people going in reverse. Perhaps they have seen first hand someone who is educated, knowledgeable and reasonable become deceived by social media, casting away their own values and knowledge for misconceptions incepted into them by persistent deception. I'm not saying I agree entirely with the point the joke is making but it does sort of make sense to me (assuming I even understand it correctly). |
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| ▲ | 01100011 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The number of otherwise intelligent folks I follow on twitter who occasionally brag or make note of their follower count without realizing 80%+ are bots is way too high. I think that's by design though. Tolerate bots to get high-value users to participate more after they think real people are actually listening to them. | |
| ▲ | CalChris 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > intelligent and knowledgeable. people willingly engage with social media and fall into treating what they see as truth, and then are shocked when they learn it's not truth. I also see this with AI answers relying on crap internet content. | | |
| ▲ | FloorEgg 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Most content on the internet has been optimized to get attention, not to represent truth. AI trained on most content will be filled with misconceptions and contradictions. Recent research has been showing that culling bad training data has a huge positive impact on model capabilities. Something like 99% of positive model capabilities comes from 10% of the training data (forget exactly). I really hope that AI business models don't fall into relying on getting and keeping attention. I also hope the owners and creators of them exist in a win-win relationship with society as a whole. If AIs compete with each other based on which best represent truth, then overall things could get a lot better. |
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| ▲ | BLKNSLVR 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'll try with a Simpsons analogy: > Walk willingly into platos cave, pay for platos cave verification, sit down, enjoy all the discourse on the wall. Homer pays to get the crayon put back up his nose > Spit your drink out when you figure out that the shadows on the wall are all fake. Homer gets annoyed/surprised if someone calls him stupid. |
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| ▲ | ninkendo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’ll take a stab: because twitter isn’t reality, it’s a microcosm. A tempest in a teapot. It’s something that if you step outside of, you realize it’s not the real world. Leaving social media can be thought of as emerging from the cave: you interact with people near you who actually have a shared experience to yours (if only geographically) and you get a feel for what real world conversation is like: full of nuance and tailored to the individual you’re talking to. Not blasted out to everyone to pick apart simultaneously. You start to realize it was just a website and the people on it are just like the shadows on the wall: they certainly look real and can be mesmerizing, but they have no effect on anything outside of the cave. |
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| ▲ | TJSomething 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It matches my usual reading pretty closely. Society gives names to things that aren't real and then argues about them. Twitter is a microcosm of this with their own categories and assemblages of ideas that are even less real than those present in broader society. |
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| ▲ | pixl97 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Really Twitter may be one of the worse ones, but the internet really has become CGP Grey's this video will make you angry. |
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| ▲ | tormeh 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "It's all fake?"
"Always has been" |
