| ▲ | tehjoker 3 hours ago |
| why not go in the other direction and get them housing and healthcare so they can be treated like people and will also not disrupt your ride people from outside the US often think it’s a land of fabulously rich ppl and are aghast at how we treat our citizens |
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| ▲ | chairmansteve 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Easier to charge a dollar. Solve the simple problem first. Then tackle the more complex. |
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| ▲ | ggfdh 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > people from outside the US often think it’s a land of fabulously rich ppl and are aghast at how we treat our citizens We can have concern for residents who feel justifiably unsafe and uncomfortable on public transit as well as homeless riders. |
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| ▲ | matt-p 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm pro paying for them to get whatever housing and healthcare they need via taxes, just like everyone else. It's not like it's that simple though. Giving someone a house and a doctor will not get them off heroin on its own and may not even help them very much at all honestly. |
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| ▲ | vidarh 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Most heroin addicts can be remarkably close to a normal functioning healthy person if they don't live in precarious conditions without access to a clean supply. The proportion of heroin addicts who would still be wrecks with healthcare that extends to prescribing what they need is miniscule. So the first problem is thinking you need to get them off heroin to be able to start dramatically helping. | |
| ▲ | undeveloper 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | it's actually highly effective for a majority of people. [1] Otherwise, what do you propose? 1: https://nlihc.org/resource/new-study-finds-providing-people-... | |
| ▲ | naikrovek 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Giving someone a house and a doctor will not get them off heroin on its own and may not even help them very much at all honestly. Giving someone a house and health care will, though. Every addict I have ever known (I’ve known many) consume drugs in order to escape something. Addressing this while also treating the user will indeed help them. Mental health care + physical health care = “health care” in my opening sentence. I don’t know what it is about people in the US, but almost all of us completely reject the idea that someone can be held down entirely by their own mind. Large amounts of people are, and those that don’t seem to understand that this is possible are often people whose own mind holds them down, but not so much that they’re homeless. People in other countries get this. We do not. I don’t understand it. |
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| ▲ | whatsupdog an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Do you really think people are homeless because of lack of housing? Have you seen what becomes of a house when homeless people are moved into one? A huge percentage of homeless are homeless by choice. |
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| ▲ | tclancy an hour ago | parent [-] | | Hang on, in another comment you say you’re in Dubai where there aren’t any homeless. So how are you seeing this? |
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