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sph 5 hours ago

Probably like MX Linux, which has, for some reason, topped the Distrowatch popularity list for years in front of Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch Linux, Debian. Strangely enough, CachyOS seems to have adopted the same strategy and it's now first place on that site.

I've been using Linux since 2001, and I honestly I find it funny how these niche flashy distros are popular with the new generations. Probably because newbies follow the screenshots and /r/unixporn posts, instead of caring about support, mind share and governance. Except Arch, because it's both a really good distro and a symbol for cool h4x0r edgelords, so it's where everybody seems to land after playing with the niche distros like Zorin until they inevitably become unsupported.

Rock-solid distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora don't have that "cool" factor so noobs don't even consider them, even though under the hood it's all the same, and on day 2 you just want something that works, rather than something that looks good on a Reddit post.

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You know Linux has gone mainstream when baby's first distro Zorin has a privacy policy and terms of service page, as it's published by a for-profit company.

trelane 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> baby's first distro Zorin has a privacy policy and terms of service page, as it's published by a for-profit company.

As though Red Hat and Ubuntu weren't a thing for literal decades.

baal80spam 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Rock-solid distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora don't have that "cool" factor so noobs don't even consider them

Isn't Ubuntu the first thing a "noob" thinks of when they hear the word "Linux"?

type0 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

CachyOS is the new cool noob distro, with plenty of footguns so it stays fun

II2II 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ten years ago, sure. Judging from their landing page, not any more.

thekevan 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't trust Distrowatch's popularity list. I have thought for years it was probably gamed.

There are constantly distros in that top ten list that aren't in other top ten lists like mentions of reddit, mention on Twitter, Google searches for "linux distro", etc.

boomboomsubban 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The distrowatch rankings are based on page views to the distros section on the site. So the distros that lead the rankings tend to be moderately popular distros that link to that page on their site.

cosmic_cheese 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Distros like Debian and Ubuntu also suffer from issues with compatibility with newer hardware due to their older kernels. This is part of why distros based on Fedora and Fedora Atomic (such as Nobara and Bazzite, respectively) have seen popularity.

incompatible 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have tried Debian, but I found that the software on the main version was out-of-date, and the testing version eventually broke during an update (which is when I abandoned it.) It's not something I'd recommend to a new Linux user.

slow_typist 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The question is, do you really need the newer versions? If so, maybe check availability via backports or extrepo.

From my perspective a solid OS that stays out of my way most of the time outweighs the slight disadvantage of working with older software versions. YMMV.

tormeh 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also, gamers at least want the latest drivers. Not the ones from three weeks ago. The latest ones. That's why everyone is recommending Arch-based distros for that purpose. I'm currently on Pop, and waiting months for Mesa updates is no fun.

arzig 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I find Fedora hits a nice sweet spot between compatibility/updates and random breakage, especially since they backport KDE versions along with kernels.

pluralmonad 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Stable with back ports works well for me. I have not upgraded to Trixie yet and have 6.12, which handles dev work, Steam, and llama.cpp (ROCm) without issue.

shevy-java 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

MX Linux is quite ok. Not sure why it is so highly ranked on distrowatch though.

XorNot 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is Gnome have really committed themselves to screwing up UI paradigms.

I'd be much less happy with Linux if Cinnamon DE didn't exist because that's essentially a Windows like experience without the BS.

Conversely the default Gnome desktop is awful IMO.

Taskbar, start button and menus all have decades of proven effectiveness, no one needed to mess with them just get the details right (e.g. fonts and interactions).

christophilus a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

I’ll echo the other commenters who are praising Gnome. It is pretty keyboard-centric. Once you’re used to it, it’s quite nice. I’ve moved on to Niri, and can’t imagine going back to a floating window manager, but between Windows, macOS, and Gnome, I prefer Gnome hands down.

WD-42 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You know what is proven effective? Not needing to reach for a mouse to interact with taskbar, start button and menus. GNOME is extremely effective as long as you aren't a clicker. If you want to stick to a 30 year old desktop metaphor that's on you but the rest of us have moved on.

XorNot 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Discoverable user interfaces are orthogonal to keyboard interaction efficiency.

Menus are one of the primary ways you can discover keyboard shortcuts.

aucisson_masque 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I often see people praising gnome for it's keyboard efficiency but they are not even 10% as good as macos.

If they cared so much, they would have keyboard shortcut for everything, in every app, with the top bar displaying menu and every shortcut attributed to it, just like macos.

Instead you can use the keyboard to switch an app, close it and so on but once you are working inside, you immediately need to take your mouse. What's the point ? It saves 1 second and confuse lot of beginners.

WD-42 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure what you mean - pretty much every modern GNOME application has keyboard shortcuts. In fact they use a consistent keyboard shortcut to bring up the screen that shows all the keyboard shortcuts: ctrl+?

gregoryl 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It took me a week or so to get used to Gnome, and now I find Windows 11 (and KDE) frustrating!

arzig 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I like the gnome paradigm. The gnome implementation is bad though. I was promised that xwayland would be the bridge to a glorious future yet stuff like pointer confinement just doesn’t work and their implementation of refresh rate doesn’t play nicely with vscode. So, the reality is I still use KDE even if it’s not quite as visionary.

prmoustache 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same here I switched to Gnome many years ago and even the newest windows and macos desktop feel old and non user-friendly in comparison.