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Aurornis 3 hours ago

“Just ban everything I don’t like as long as it won’t impact anything I do like” is a frequent take on HN these days.

Then when states start doing things like adding ID requirements for websites it’s shock and rage as the consequences of banning things (even for under 18s) encounter the realities of what happens when you “just ban” things.

terminalshort 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It really has turned into a bitter losers bitch fest in here.

opan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think we can separate the banning of things which affect personal freedom from the rest. Like if oil were "banned", I'm imagining it's not illegal to possess oil, but rather oil companies wouldn't be able to drill it up and sell it anymore. A bit like fazing out asbestos. The ordinary people with asbestos tiles in their basement don't get into trouble, but new house builds can't/won't use that tile anymore.

ID requirements seem like the main burden is being put on ordinary people instead of corporations, and by extension seems clearly bad.

Aurornis 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Like if oil were "banned", I'm imagining it's not illegal to possess oil, but rather oil companies wouldn't be able to drill it up and sell it anymore.

What does that have to do with anything?

It doesn’t matter where you ban it, if you turn off oil overnight a lot of people are left stranded from their jobs, sectors of the economy collapse, unemployment becomes out of control.

Banning things like this is just fantasy talk that only makes sense to people who can’t imagine consequences or think they don’t care. I guarantee you would change your mind very quickly about banning oil overnight as soon as the consequence became obvious.

squigz 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Who suggested "turning oil off overnight"? What does that even mean?

GP (and I) have given you several examples of stuff society learned was harmful and then phased out with regulations/legislation. No, it didn't and does not happen overnight.

Why are you acting in such bad faith, trying to disregard people you don't agree with as "not being able to imagine consequences"?