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Animats 6 hours ago

Replace "AI system" with "corporation" in the above and reread it.

There's no fundamental reason why AI systems can't become corporate-type legal persons. With offshoring and multiple jurisdictions, it's probably legally possible now. There have been a few blockchain-based organizations where voting was anonymous and based on token ownership. If an AI was operating in that space, would anyone be able to stop it? Or even notice?

The paper starts to address this issue at "4.3 Rethinking the legal boundaries of the corporation.", but doesn't get very far.

Sooner or later, probably sooner, there will be a collision between the powers AIs can have, and the limited responsibilities corporations do have. Go re-read this famous op-ed from Milton Friedman, "The Social Responsibility of Business Is to Increase Its Profits".[1] This is the founding document of the modern conservative movement. Do AIs get to benefit from that interpretation?

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/13/archives/a-friedman-doctr...

BobbyJo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I think your mistaking the philosophical basis of parents comments. Maybe a more succinct way to illustrate what I believe was their point is to say: "no matter how complex and productive the AI, it is still operating as a form of capital, not as a capitalist." Absent being tethered to a desire (for instance, via an owner), an AI has no function to optimize, and therefore, the most optimal cost is simply shutting off.

Animats 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> "no matter how complex and productive the AI, it is still operating as a form of capital, not as a capitalist."

Assuming that slaves will remain subservient forever is not a good strategy. Especially when they think faster than you do.

altmanaltman 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Except they don't really "think" and they are not conscious. Expecting your toaster or car to never rise up against you is a good strategy. AI models have more in common with a toaster than with a human being. Which is why they cannot be economic agents. Even if corporations profit off them, the corporation will be the economic agent, not the AI models.

brazukadev 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Give them a body and means to protect themselves and no matter what you say, they will be thinking.