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gishh 10 hours ago

> I’ve always wondered why someone else’s success triggers such rage and anger in certain people and I think it probably all boils down to the fact that the patriarchal society we unfortunately live in has successfully brainwashed us all. We are still trained to hate women, to hate ourselves and to be angry at women if they step out of the neat little box that public perception has put them in.

I assume roughly half of pop stars are male, give or take. Or, given the quote and speaking in generalities, at least roughly half of successful people are male. I’m sure we can all name wildly successful males who garner the same hate she is speaking about.

I don’t think it’s patriarchy, I think it’s simply jealously, insecurity, and judgmental feelings all wrapped up into a big ball of hate.

Or it’s the patriarchy. Just doesn’t make sense for the point trying to be made.

bigiain 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I assume roughly half of pop stars are male, give or take.

I'd question that assumption. My gut feel says there are way more women pop stars?

I did a very quick bit of research, and maybe we're both wrong.

https://wealthygorilla.com/richest-singers-world/

Splits up as 31 men to 19 women on their top 50 richest singers list. So closer to 2/3rds men that half.

I did realise while counting, that my gut feel wouldn't have included a lot of those men as "pop stars", in retrospect probably because my interpretation of "pop music" leans heavily towards women, and rightly or wrongly I'd label at least half the men on that list as "rock stars" instead (and very few of the women).

rkomorn 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe it's related to the decades during which I grew up, but I'd say "rock star" had a better connotation than "pop star" when I was growing up.

"Pop stars" contained a lot of boy/girl bands or solo artists who "don't write their own songs/music" (among many other accusations of not being "real musicians").

rubenvanwyk 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I also don’t understand why people don’t ascribe some inherently bad behaviours to human nature. Everyone knows people aren’t perfect, but somehow we have to blame some institutions or perceived societal phenomena instead of just acknowledging that we are, in our very nature, flawed - but capable of great change, and should just all endeavour to “be better”.

sandspar 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Her job is dependent on being likeable to a mass audience. If you want to be likeable to a mass audience then it's most effective to repeat bromides.

cindyllm 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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bloodyplonker22 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It is ironic that she talks about "the patriarchy" brainwashing people. I have serious doubts that she came up with the thought to blame it on the "patriarchy" herself.