> The US was founded on individual rights

Excluding those whose land was stolen and redistributed by government.

> not community sacrifice

Excluding government-funded infrastructure projects like canals that enabled growth. And support that immigrants received from ethnic communities.

> Meanwhile, during the 1800s, scores of millions of people moved up from poverty

Yes, fifteen tons, we know that song.

This comment is sort of weird. Like you’re finding technically true rebuttals that don’t really refute the high level point.

	▲	ivan_gammel an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The high level point is idealism not grounded in historical facts and probably not worthy spending time and going deeper with criticism, because full rebuttal isn’t some expert knowledge - ChatGPT can do that for you. America of 1800s is everything but libertarian paradise and is not truly exceptional. Industrialization in Europe increased prosperity while building welfare states at the same time.