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| ▲ | leobg 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Can you pick even a single person that will agree with you on everything? You could be around 10 if your identical twins and there’d still be conflict. Why is it more „natural” if the school does the picking? Besides, parents can’t command anyone to join. It’s not The Truman Show. Is marriage not “real life” because you chose your partner? Does you choosing prevent disagreement, struggle, pain and growth? I don’t think so. | |
| ▲ | seneca 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The one that exists with problem children and opinions you don’t like. That's just not true though. Your job isn't going to force you to interact with people who disrupt the environment constantly. Those people are fired and removed from the group. | | |
| ▲ | hereme888 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Exactly. Adults don't tolerate the same B.S. children are forced into. | |
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| ▲ | AnimalMuppet 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In functional workplaces, yes. In dysfunctional ones, sometimes you have to leave. In the military, say, you don't get that option. In your neighborhood, you can move, but that's a fairly difficult and expensive step. When someone moves in whose kids want to be gang members, or who wants to verbally abuse people out jogging, or whatever other antisocial behavior, you have to deal with it, at least for a while. So you can't completely avoid the brokenness of the real world. (Note well: I am not saying that throwing a six year old into the deep end is the best way to prepare kids for this.) | | |
| ▲ | seneca 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > In functional workplaces, yes. In dysfunctional ones, sometimes you have to leave. Agreed! And that is exactly what home-schooling families are doing. Choosing to leave a dysfunctional environment. > In the military, say, you don't get that option. Yep, and other government institutions, like prison. I don't think those are what anyone would call a typical life environment though. > In your neighborhood, you can move, but that's a fairly difficult and expensive step. When someone moves in whose kids want to be gang members, or who wants to verbally abuse people out jogging, or whatever other antisocial behavior, you have to deal with it, at least for a while. That's another dysfunctional environment, and also what the police are for. > So you can't completely avoid the brokenness of the real world. (Note well: I am not saying that throwing a six year old into the deep end is the best way to prepare kids for this.) You're right, you can't. The world has a lot of dysfunctional environments, and I agree that people need to learn how to deal with them. Knowingly forcing your child to be in one of those environments full-time for many years seems like a pretty horrible way to teach them that though, bordering on abusive. | | |
| ▲ | array_key_first 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Public school is not dysfunctional, per se. And, to be clear, EVERY workplace will have people you don't like. Every. Single. One. No exceptions. Kids needs to be taught resiliency and healthy mindsets, to a degree. They need to learn to live and let go, to learn their value isn't derived from what people think of them, to learn that embarrassment is self inflicted. You just can't do that if you're only around people who don't challenge you. If you're in a nice, cushy, social bubble, you will develop self esteem and confidence issues. |
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| ▲ | meheleventyone 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | My job isn’t the totality of my life and you have very strange ideas about how quickly disruptive people actually get fired. You get plenty of unfiltered interaction in life. If anything I’d say the sort of thing you describe sounds more like an insular cult. Although even there you get misanthropic people, abuse and so on. | | |
| ▲ | seneca 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > My job isn’t the totality of my life and you have very strange ideas about how quickly disruptive people actually get fired. You get plenty of unfiltered interaction in life. In what environment are you, as an adult, forced to interact with everyone who happens to show up? The only instances I can think of are other government-run institutions like the military or prison, and I don't think anyone would argue those are standard modes of "real life". > If anything I’d say the sort of thing you describe sounds more like an insular cult. Name calling isn't an argument. | | |
| ▲ | BrenBarn 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > In what environment are you, as an adult, forced to interact with everyone who happens to show up? Have you heard of customer service? | |
| ▲ | meheleventyone 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Anywhere you happen to be in public essentially. I also didn’t call you names just stated that your description sounded cult like. If your environment is so controlled to not have a good mix of people in it then that sounds even more cult like! | |
| ▲ | FireBeyond 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > In what environment are you, as an adult, forced to interact with everyone who happens to show up? I was a paramedic. Every single day. |
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