umm no offense, but propaganda has the ability to hold up false realities/ narratives that do real damage to the world for decades. Hell there is literally propaganda invented 75 years ago still justifying the killing of innocents in effective ways today.

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quantummagic 8 hours ago | parent [-]

No offense taken; you're likely in the minority. The loudest voices anyway, believe the "bubble" and hype are going to burst. That all the money is a scam and bound to fail.

Enron, Theranos, FTX, were all massive propaganda successes, until they weren't. Same with countless other technologies that didn't live up to the hype.

And what counts as propaganda anyway? I can only speak for myself, but have had great success with the use of AI. Anything positive I say about it, isn't motivated by a grand conspiracy I secretly want to bolster, it's just honest feedback from personal experience.

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TechDebtDevin 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean its too big to fail. There are armies of lobbyist psyopping every congress person into thinking those data centers are the only thing preventing China from taking over the world. And the hyperscalers are racing to a moral hazard where they are "too big to fail"

The governments of the world know they can hijack all original thoughts, control education and destroy the power of a lot of labour. They won't ever let llms fail. They want society completely reliant on them. Just like they wouldn't let a tool like social media fail, despite it being terrible for society. It has too many benefits for government to control their populations.

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quantummagic 7 hours ago | parent [-]

You're probably right, both the left and right seem determined to plunge us into an authoritarian and economically stratified society. But I can't help but go back to my earlier point, unlike all the other tech that was hyped to the stratosphere, the LLM tech has been a huge plus for me personally. I just like it, and that isn't part of the propaganda "machine".

	▲	visarga 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I think when it comes to LLMs, like software and books - usage is everything. You have to use it to get a benefit. LLMs by themselves produce no utility. And usage means a task coming from a person who puts something at stake, it is contextual. It is both a cost and a risk for the user. Benefits accumulate to the user. So LLMs are actually just a cheap utility, while context is king. It is democratizing.
	▲	TechDebtDevin 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I think that's fine, its the people that aren't paranoid about it at all that concern me. There's definitely a responsible way to use llms and get value out of them. I just come off strong cause most people are the former and need to snap out the fuck out of it. I feel like 25% of the people on this site are "spiraling" i.e heading towards some silicon valley administered psychosis.