The laws already exist. Graphene team is accusing the French law enforcement of this:

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115584160910016309

> This doesn't have anything to do with how French journalists have responded to the state actions against GrapheneOS but rather the actions and statements by France's state agencies and law enforcement which are highly concerning. They're making highly inaccurate and libelous claims about GrapheneOS while clearly actively trying to justify taking actions against us. They've shown their hand so we're leaving France including OVH prior to anything bad happening rather than waiting.

and more in the thread.

> "Particularité de GraphèneOS : on peut se le procurer autant sur le darknet que sur des sites grand public." ⇒ "A distinctive feature of GrapheneOS is that it can be obtained both on the darknet and on mainstream websites."

If they consider the country is making laws they can't accept, then the honourable thing is to no longer allow participation within that country.

French newspapers are mostly french republic propaganda paid by the state, and laws and political decisions are tested with headlines like this.

This is public data, it's not a conspiracy. Lots of newspapers would not exist without the taxpayer money: https://www.culture.gouv.fr/thematiques/presse-ecrite/tablea...

No, one should never ever talk to journalists. Nothing good can come from it. Never assume good faith from journalists.

Specifically, we don't know the goals. Generally, we know it's about control and fear of losing power.

It's a stolen quote but rings true:

Those with power fear one thing above all else; losing said power.

Authoritarianism is doing well all over; it doesn't have to be deliberately coordinated, so much as people being basically the same everywhere, and the world sharing some serious problems. What works in one country works in almost any other.

Personally I’ve grown hostile to the concept of anonymous speech but I readily admit that I can’t imagine a way to deanonymize without also losing privacy as most people describe it.

Anonymous posters like what looks like a troll bot that the GrapheneOS account is arguing with have flooded the zone with so much noise its fracturing society imo

It's palantir.

Or simply.. drumroll.. THE STATE

Or maybe a pervert.

Does it read like AI slop to anybody else?

I confess I haven't paid much attention to privacy issues in my laziness and indifference over the years. But as I witness the development of escalating violations of personal space and the invasive seizures of sensitive data by corporations and governments and random script kiddies employed for their demolition skills, I am resolving, here and now, to stop shaking my fist at the clouds and yelling to Get Off My Lawn.

Coincidentally, I just bought an old Pixel on eBay today. Because it had GrapheneOS already installed.

My interest in privacy is growing, but I confess I was mostly motivated by an admiration for the GrapheneOS project... They're really good at what they're doing, and they are swamped with work, and attacked by bots, weirdos and authoritarian speculators.

And, because I want to sport that monochromatic minimalist interface. Maybe I'll come out of my cocoon to pitch in.

The problem is not that security solutions are a double edged sword, it's that such solutions stop mass surveillance.

When Ross Ulbricht was arrested, they made sure to do it in a way that they got access to his laptop while logged in. I'm sure competent investigators can figure out the login method used daily by someone on their phone if they follow them because they are committing a crime. Just like they did with Ulbricht. But they can't do that for everyone whenever they feel like it, and that's the problem.

> We need to just accept that any technology designed for security and privacy is always going to be a double-edged sword.

I agree, therefore it should be my legal right to use such technology. Like a 2A for encryption and privacy

Yeah, people be random sometimes, internet can be hostile. But why is @GrapheneOS still engaging? After 2-3 messages you won't really improve on anything, and their goal is probably to just suck energy, so the only way to win is to not engage at all. Also ruins the conversations about the the content, instead people end up focusing on that crazy-on-one-side exchange.

Internet 101: don't provide sustenance to the creatures who sometimes live under bridges.

It speaks to the medium that someone shouting nonsense can absorb so much of the thread

I don't know, but GrapheneOS posts tend to get the most bizarre attacks on social media. It's really strange - outright unhinged attacks.

Mental illness sucks. The guy is clearly not doing well.

State actor, without a doubt. They even called them perverts at one point.

State actor, without a doubt.

He has an AI pfp and banner and the account was created last month with almost no content other than the insane replies in this thread

He said BYE and I was like phew, he's gone but then nope. Doesn't know what BYE means I guess.

Normal troll behavior. I don't know why they keep engaging with him since he's obviously just there to poop on the floor.

He's French.

100% state bot. I wouldn't even think it was just France, other state actors would love to see GrapheneOS go down as well. How dare citizens have technology we can't access.

Likely a fascist whose sole purpose is to suck energy from the maintainers. An authoritarian trolling an anti-authoritarian project.