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kccqzy 7 hours ago

If you are looking for real-world code for an effect system, not just a PDF paper, you should probably look at the eff library: https://github.com/hasura/eff

The acknowledgement section on that GitHub README mentions this paper.

tome 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

eff has never been released to Hackage and as far as I know never used in production. I wouldn't call it "real-world code". For effect systems that people do actually use in production I suggest

* Polysemy: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/polysemy

* effectful: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/effectful

* Bluefin: https://hackage-content.haskell.org/package/bluefin/docs/Blu...

[Disclosure: Bluefin in my effect system]

tmoertel 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Hey, those docs for Bluefin are a great introduction to the space. Very well written!

solomonb 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

`eff` is a research project that is no longer in active development and never made it to production in any sense. It would be AMAZING if `eff` were completed but I dont think that will happen at this point.

`eff` is based on delimited continuations (which Alexis had to build into GHC), it is not using `Freer`. If you want to look at an effect system in Haskell that actually has been used in production AND is based on this paper then look at `freer-simple`: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/freer-simple

No it is not high performance, but neither are any other Haskell effect systems and performance is relative to your problem domain. It also has the benefit of being implemented very similarly to Oleg's paper making it a lot easier to learn from then most other options.

tome 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> No it is not high performance, but neither are any other Haskell effect systems

This is not true. IO-wrapper effect systems (in practice, effectful or Bluefin) have as good performance as Haskell's IO monad, that is to say as good as you can get in Haskell.

solomonb 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes but from what I understand at a loss of safety. You can decide if that is worth it but you aren't getting a free lunch.

that said, your library is really cool. : )

Twey 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As far as I know the shiniest implementations in the effect typing world at the moment are Koka and Effekt, which are both languages in their own right. They each have their own ideas about implementation to make effects (mostly) zero-cost.

https://koka-lang.github.io/ https://effekt-lang.org/

Frank is pretty old now but perhaps a simpler implementation: https://github.com/frank-lang/frank

epolanski 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Also effect-ts in TypeScript world, which is by far the most popular effect system around (quite sure it has overtaken Scala's ZIO from which it is inspired).

The ecosystem is massive.

Cons: TypeScript is a great type system but requires some investment to get the best out of it, it's also very verbose.

Pros: you have access to the entirety of the TypeScript ecosystem.

https://effect.website/

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pxeger1 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> by far the most popular effect system around

Crazy claim to make without providing any evidence

epolanski 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What other effect library or language has 6 millions + downloads per month (that's more than angular) and meetups popping all around the world?