I'm more of a C person than a Go person, but I am unbelievably happy that someone in that community is using the word "cryptography" to mean cryptography and not Bitcoin.

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jsheard 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wasn't it just the shorthand "crypto" that got co-opted by the Shitcoin Industrial Complex? I think "cryptography" still means what it always meant regardless of who you ask.

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OhMeadhbh 8 hours ago | parent [-]

That's mostly the case, but I've seen job postings for "cryptography experts" that are, as best I can tell, looking for block chain hucksters. But I'm unlikely to work for Microsoft, so I just ignore them.

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jsheard 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Well yeah, someone hired to work with the low-level nuts and bolts of blockchains would ideally need to know their way around actual bona-fide cryptography.

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OhMeadhbh 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Respectfully disagree. My experience is that they've read a couple chapters from Applied Cryptography and think "IACR" is a router manufacturer.

But we all see different parts of the industry. Happy to hear you're encountering more capable people in that industry.

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FiloSottile 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are definitely better cryptographers than me working at Zcash, for example.

	▲	OhMeadhbh 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I was at Microsoft for meetings once and one of the guys asked if I was a cryptographer. I replied that it depends on who else is in the room. If it's just me and my boss, I'd probably qualify as being a cryptographer. But if I'm in the room with Niels Ferguson or Adi Shamir, I should be considered a software engineer who is somewhat decent at reading math papers. At about the same time, Niels Ferguson walked in the room and I quickly commented "you should not consider me a cryptographer for the rest of this meeting."

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jsheard 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh no I'm not speaking from experience, just saying that in principle you would want actual cryptography experts in that position, so there's no contradiction in terms. How that tends to play out in practice is another question.

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OhMeadhbh 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Downvoted for mentioning that people confuse cryptography with Bitcoin? Good thing I didn't mention I think we're in an AI bubble. Or that I prefer emacs to vi.

	▲	kunley 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Let's revert the self-scrutiny trend and actually enjoy a fellow mentioning his downvote. At least I am enjoying, your perception is valid.