| ▲ | somanyphotons 9 hours ago |
| Am I right to assume that they simply implemented AirDrop without discussing with Apple? |
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| ▲ | rescbr 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I remember reading somewhere Apple had/has to make AirDrop interoperable due to EU's DMA. |
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| ▲ | amelius 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | How long until Apple disables it outside of the EU? | | |
| ▲ | jack_tripper 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | They won't, they'll just do another Green-Bubble/Blue-Bubble shenanigan to signal when Apple royalty is transferring a file with an unwashed Android peasant via a gimped experience. |
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| ▲ | raw_anon_1111 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well since absolutely no one buys Pixeld to a first approximation and mostly in the US. Looking at different sites it’s from 3-6% marketshare. I doubt this was done for the DMA. | | |
| ▲ | input_sh 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Developers will be able to integrate alternative solutions to Apple’s AirDrop and AirPlay services on the iPhone. As a result, iPhone users will be able to choose from different and innovative services to share files with other users and cast media content from their iPhones to TVs. https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe... | | |
| ▲ | raw_anon_1111 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | You realize that doesn’t say what you think it says in your own quote of the citation? Apple has to allow alternate solutions on the iPhone - not that they have to allow AirDrop interoperability. | | |
| ▲ | input_sh 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Feel free to click on a PDF directly below that quote, I don't have to serve you everything on a silver platter. I promise you you will find what you're looking for right there. | | |
| ▲ | raw_anon_1111 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | So you posted a citation supposedly refuting my comment then when you are called out about it instead of admitting you misinterpreted your own citation, you say “look somewhere else”… |
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| ▲ | concinds 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's a different thing, but the EU did force Apple to implement Wi-Fi Aware which is what allows Google to do this. | | |
| ▲ | gumby271 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | But this works with the existing airdrop client on the iOS side right? Did Apple change airdrop to use wifi aware, and now Google can build the airdrop protocol on Android? |
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| ▲ | tencentshill 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So is Airdrop now less secure or private? I don't trust any standard Google had their hands in. | | |
| ▲ | wiseowise 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | First time I hear about Google tech being insecure or not private. Sure they siphon all the info THEMSELVES, but never have I heard about them implementing insecure protocols. | | |
| ▲ | thewebguyd 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > but never have I heard about them implementing insecure protocols. That's because they don't. Google takes security seriously. There's a reason GrapheneOS is only supported on Pixel devices currently as well, because of certain hardware security features. Nothing you do with Google is private from Google but it's certainly designed to belong only to Google, your data is one of their most important assets. Of course they are going to secure it and prevent others besides themselves from getting or using it. It's the most common misconception with Google, that they "sell your information." They don't, they never have. They use your info, aggregated with all other Google users, to sell targeting for ads. They don't sell the actual data. |
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| ▲ | dlcarrier 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't think it's possible for it to get less secure or private. | |
| ▲ | rescbr 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Eh... there is an open source AirDrop implementation, it's 6 years old now. https://github.com/seemoo-lab/opendrop |
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| ▲ | jhogervorst 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was wondering the same. Looking at the statements in the posts, I think so? |
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| ▲ | do_not_redeem 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Reading between the lines, it seems like Google is playing a bit of chess here. Reminds me of the Beeper Mini stunt, except this time by a trillion-dollar company they can't just sweep under the rug. > we welcome the opportunity to work with Apple to enable “Contacts Only” mode in the future. > I applaud the effort to open more secure information sharing between platforms and encourage Google and Apple to work together more on this. Your move, Apple. |
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| ▲ | thewebguyd 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's how it reads to me. They made a big deal during the Pixel 10 launch to talk about Apple/iOS features, and switching from iPhone to Pixel. They called the blue/green bubbles childish, and they put Magasafe in the Pixel and explicitly said "you can use all your Apple accessories." Google is going hard after iPhone users by trying to punch holes in Apple's walled garden anytime they can. AirDrop is another hole in the wall, as was Magsafe, and RCS. If Google can get other AWDL features working between macOS and Android, particularly universal clipboard and universal control, I'd seriously consider switching back to Android after many, many years on iOS purely for the ecosystem integration. iMessage doesn't bother me, but I use AirDrop, AirPods auto switching on calls, and universal clipboard daily and those are all blockers for my considering a switch. | |
| ▲ | GeekyBear 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I am reminded of Microsoft implementing a YouTube app for Windows Phone, and Google repeatedly blocking it. | | |
| ▲ | wiseowise 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Because Google is an underdog here. In your memory Google is Microsoft and Apple is Google. |
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| ▲ | somanyphotons 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think Apple will be ok with this, it clearly shows Android being less capable/compatible than other iPhones, a bit like blue/green bubbles |
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| ▲ | standardUser 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Key quote from The Verge article: When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,” he tells The Verge. “Our implementation was thoroughly vetted by our own privacy and security teams, and we also engaged a third party security firm to pentest the solution.” Google didn’t exactly answer our question when we asked how the company anticipated Apple responding to the development; Moriconi only says that “…we always welcome collaboration opportunities to address interoperability issues between iOS and Android.” https://www.theverge.com/news/825228/iphone-airdrop-android-... |
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| ▲ | trollbridge 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| And if Google does this as well as the RCS rollout, I can look forward to attempts to use AirDrop to send me viruses and other spammy junk. |
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| ▲ | thewebguyd 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | AirDrop & QuickShare are "contacts only" by default. You have to explicitly enable "receive from anyone" and it's only active for 10 minutes. The old days of being able to AirDrop something to everyone on a plane because it was set to "everyone" by default are over. |
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