I am quite sure many people would fail Pub Quizzes related to C, when taking into account the whole language alongside compiler extensions, regardless of the compiler.

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deaddodo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

To learn all of the common GCC and MSVC extensions would make up a fraction of the language features of C# or Java. You’re really overstating the complexity to make some invalid point.

“Actually, one of the most notoriously conservative and simple (in feature set) languages is really super complex and has evolved a ton because it has _Generic and varargs now, and __packed__ exists as a compiler feature.”

And to further double down, that minor evolution is over 36 years (arguably a decade longer, but I’m being generous with your argument). Not the 12-16 years (depending which 5 point release you wanna start with) that PHP has morphed into an entirely different language.

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pjmlp 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

A pub quizz would consider more than GCC and MSVC, and still I would bet many would fail if talking only about those two.

And I would double down on my bet regarding ISO C related questions, as I have met a few folks that contrary to myself as language nerd, hardly know what is written there or have even opened the PDF drafts at least once in their life.

	▲	deaddodo 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		A pub quiz isn't a developer, a codebase, nor an objective measure. If you want to use your own head canon benchmarks to prove your obviously off-base point and tell yourself you're "correct", go for it.

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johnisgood 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, it does not take a long time to learn GCC / Clang extensions, IMO. Have an LLM give you a list of these with examples, really. :P