| ▲ | cbolton 3 hours ago |
| You can also install through the Play store. Sideloading is more specific. |
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| ▲ | devsda 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Like hacking, sideloading is now a loaded & misunderstood term. It is considered as something only nerds or bad actors do. Let's just call it alternate install. |
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| ▲ | rkachowski 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Or "open install", correctly implying the alternative is closed. | |
| ▲ | mrighele 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or manual install. | | |
| ▲ | exe34 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | How about calling the other one "installing from the play store"? installing was there first. | | |
| ▲ | miroljub 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Exactly. Let's invent a word for "installing from play store". Playstoring? So we can rewrite the story to something like: Google wants to prohibit app installation on Android phones. The only way to get an app would be through playstoring. | | | |
| ▲ | fainpul 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Corpoloading | | |
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| ▲ | engeljohnb 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I can install on my Fedora laptop through dnf. I've never felt like I needed a new word to describe downloading and running an AppImage. Why would phones be different? |
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| ▲ | tonyhart7 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | well because its not allowed to "install" from third party sources (atleast not yet) google has control on their android ecosystem behave, same reason why its not allowed in playstation or xbox or ios | | |
| ▲ | engeljohnb an hour ago | parent [-] | | The whole selling point of Android up until now was that it allowed you to install any app you want. The point of the above comment is that Google intentionally introduced the word "sideload" to make "installing an app on your own device which Google did not curate" sound more risky and sinister than it is, and I'm inclined to agree. I "make" coffee on my keurig. If Keurig decides that making any single-serve coffe pods that aren't owned by the Keurig brand is now called "off-brewing," I'd dismiss it as ridiculous and continue calling it "making coffee." We should use the language that makes sense, not the language that happens be good PR for google. | | |
| ▲ | tonyhart7 an hour ago | parent [-] | | "The whole selling point of Android up until now was that it allowed you to install any app you want." we can debate whether this is bad thing or good thing, it would have no ends what matters is reality, the reality is google have the right to change it. | | |
| ▲ | engeljohnb 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You've changed the subject. We were discussing whether one ought to use Google's term for it, or the term that's been used to describe this action since (I assume) the beginning of personal computing. Not whether Google is legally allowed to make the change. My reason for bringing up the "selling point" was to bring attention to the language -- "You can install any app you want" has always been the common refrain when I see friends get into a debate about IOS vs Android. People are already using the term because it makes the most sense. | | | |
| ▲ | Zak 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Calling something a right is an assertion about morality; it implies that a law to the contrary would be a violation of that right. I do not believe an an OS vendor with an app store has a right to limit alternate distribution channels or that a government does something wrong by restricting such practices as unfair competition. | | |
| ▲ | tonyhart7 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | "I do not believe an an OS vendor with an app store has a right to limit alternate distribution channels or that a government does something wrong by restricting such practices as unfair competition." but its not illegal and wrong tho???? if this is probihited then xbox,playstation,nintendo,ios etc would be fined already unironically android is still more "open" in all of its competitor even after all of this |
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| ▲ | makeitdouble 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Would you make the same distinction on a mac when installing Photoshop from the Adobe installer vs installing KeyNote from the MacStore ? |
