Nah, it carried over to scripting languages.

Most of them still require a very specific, very special, very fragile environment to run, and require multiple tools and carefully ran steps just so it does same you can do with a compiled executable linked to the OS.

They weren't made for having libraries, or being packaged to run in multiple machines, or being distributed to customers to run in their own computers. Perhaps JS was the exception but only to the last part.

Sure it mostly works today, but a lot of people put a lot of the effort so we can keep shoving square pegs into round roles.

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graemep 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

TCL has good solutions for this, but its not made it a success.

Where I see Python used is in places where you do not need it packaged as executables:

1. Linux - where the package manager solves the problem. I use multiple GUI apps written in python

2. On servers - e.g. Django web apps, where the the environment is set up per application

3. Code written for specific environments - even for specific hardware

4. One off installs - again, you have a specified target environment.

In none of the above cases do I find the environment to be fragile. On the other hand, if you are trying to distribute a Windows app to a large number of users I would expect it to be problematic.

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jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't get me started. I tried to use a very simply python program the other day, to talk to a bluetooth module in a device I'm building. In the end I gave up and wrote the whole thing in another language, but that wasn't before fighting the python package system for a couple of hours thinking the solution is right around the corner, if only I can get rid of one more little conflict. Python is funny that way, it infantilized programming but then required you to become an expert at resolving package manager conflicts.

For a while Conda seemed to have cracked this, but there too I now get unresolvable conflicts. It is really boggling the mind how you could get this so incredibly wrong and still have the kind of adoption that python has.

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ErroneousBosh 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Or, you know, it might just be that you're not very good at computers.

Instead of jamming in thing after thing after thing blindly hoping it's going to work, try reading the error messages and making sense of why it's doing what it's doing.

This is such Gen Z behaviour - it doesn't work first time so throw a strop and fling stuff.

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jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is such a hilarious comment.

Thank you for making my day.

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DonHopkins 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Hey Gen Z, as long as I have you on the line, could you please explain 67 to me?

I've heard of "68 and I'll owe you one", so is 67 about owing you two?

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jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm having a hard time coping with my social media addiction while doing some fairly hardcore development on an STM32 based platform so sorry :)

Incidentally, when will you (multiple) come and visit?

It's been too long.

	▲	DonHopkins 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I owe you at least one or two! Maybe we can test your drones out on that Russian guy with the GoFundMe campaign, then I'll owe you three! ;)

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s0sa 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh yeah? Well the jerk store called, and they’re running out of you!

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logicprog 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, anytime I see a useful tool, and then find out it's written in Python, I want to kms — ofc, unless it happens to work with UV, but they don't always

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raverbashing 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You are correct unfortunately