I get it, it's fun to take wildly impractical ideological stances on things and ignore reality.

However, this generation is beginning to learn the lesson every generation learns: one has to deal with the world as it is, not as one wishes it were. Scarcity exists.

Unfortunately, in globalized economic reality, you will have to transfer data to other countries to conduct business.

Unfortunately, in fossil fuel driven reality, you can't just go off fossil fuels by switching to paper straws, you have to actually build viable alternatives first.

Unfortunately, in non-world-peace reality, you can't just stop having a military and become pacifist. Turns out you still need missiles and tanks.

Unfortunately, in low-birth and low-economic-growth reality, you cannot let people retire at 62 and draw inflation-pegged pensions until death.

Unfortunately, in non-0 interest rate reality, governments can't keep deficit spending to prop up a broken socialist economic model.

Etc. Etc.

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vladms 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You don't give any reference that we can look up regarding the problems you mention (ref: "if you're using any service touching data in any part of your business even remotely connected to the US or any non-EU country (so, almost everything"). They might be very reasonable, but seems we miss the point if we don't talk a bit more detailed.

What services are you talking about? AWS? Microsoft? Some small startup? Gmail? What data? etc.

	▲	pembrook an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Literally everything. The fundamental issue is the EU doesn't like that US intelligence agencies have the ability to subpoena any server associated with US firms or companies that use US firms. However, the vast majority of the entire tech industry touches the US in some way. Here's a good primer: https://trustarc.com/resource/schrems-ii-decision-changed-pr... Last year the EU and the Biden administration came to an agreement (the second of these after the last was shot down). The current one may not stand either. If it doesn't, and you're an EU company who has an employee using something as trivial as Notion, you're already in violation (even if Notion is otherwise GDPR compliant, the US gov can subpoena them and look at their data, meaning they can be declared defacto non-compliant). This is further complicated by the fact that, as it turns out, having access to US intelligence isn't so bad in the context of Russia-Ukraine.