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jmyeet 5 hours ago

I cannot overstate the potential significance of what's going on in Congress currently and it has global implications.

Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell sit at the nexus of an international pedophile ring that threatens to bring down many billionaires and even some governments. There is a concerted effort to prevent the release of this information and we're far from done yet.

A lot of effort was made by the administration to prevent the discharge petition reaching 218 signatures. For anyone unfamiliar with how the House of Representatives works, the majority party chooses the Speaker and the Speaker decides what bills get a vote. But if a majority of the 435 representatives (so 218) want the House to have a vote, there's a procedure called a discharge petition. If it gets 218 signatures, the Speaker has to schedule a vote within a week or so (I forget the exact time line).

The Speaker Mike Johnson went so far as basically putting the House in recess for 8+ weeks to avoid this happening. He avoided wearing in an Arizona congresswoman for that same period because she was going to be the 218th signature. The government was literally suspended to avoid this outcome.

Then the Speaker changed tactics to try to pass the bill with a procedure called "unaminous consent". Basically, if no House member objects, the bill passes. Why would he do this? To avoid having votes on the record. This was good politics to force a role call.

The Speaker continues to play defense here because carve outs were added to the bill to exempt files for "national security" reasons and anything under active investigation. That's brazen obstruction and the least surprising thing is that the president announced an investigation this week. It's explicitly to prevent the release of some evidence. Make no mistake.

It's not unique to this administration either. the previous administration sat on all of this for 4 years doing absolutely nothing.

Where doe sthis lead? Foreign governments and intelligence agencies who were not only aware of what was going on but they (allegedly) actively benefit from and participated in this trafficking ring to get access to and/or blackmail powerful people. That's the "national security" interest.

As many of us are aware by now, Ghislaine Maxwell's father was the British media mogul Robert Maxwell who was a Mossad asset and got a state funeral in israel for his contributions to the state of Israel going back to suplying militia wth weapons in World War Two that were ultimately used for ethnic cleasning. And how did Maxwell die? He mysteriously fell off his own boat and drowned, his body being found the next day I believe over a hundred miles away somehow.

If this stuff gets out, many heads will roll in government, in business and in prestigious colleges. Look no further than one Alan Dershowitz. Harvard in particular has unclean hands and is elbow deep in all of this. And certainly whatever you do don't look into how Kimble Musk met one of his "girlfriends".

This is only the beginning.

axus 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm having extreme difficulties visualizing Kash Patel holding powerful people to account.

stevenwoo 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They already bought off Ghislaine Maxwell by moving her to minimum security prison with unearned privileges, so she won’t spill what she knows about people in current administration. Not sure why you seem optimistic, she is possibly the most informed person left alive and she’s gotten kid glove treatment from Trump.

hermitcrab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>He mysteriously fell off his own boat and drowned, his body being found the next day I believe over a hundred miles away somehow.

Maxwell had been stealing from his worker's pension fund and it was all starting to come out. It is plausible that he killed himself to avoid the consequences. He was a monster.

frankfrank13 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Alternatively, there is no justice, and even the truth is lost to partisan politics. I have a strange feeling this benefits foreign intelligence, not harms it. Mossad, for example, knows who slipped through the cracks. Knows how much worse the "truth" is beyond the code names and vague emails. Now they have more power, not less.

erikpukinskis an hour ago | parent | next [-]

What’s partisan about what your OP described? Democrats and republicans alike were entangled in Epstein’s crimes.

jmyeet 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This kind of thing can only exist in a climate of apathy and nihilism. The powerful want you to think the situation is hopeless and nothing will change. But remember this: at no point in history has a steady state been maintained for significant periods of time. Ever.

We are at a dangerous point in history. I personally believe that inequality is inevitably going to end in violence and we're beyuond the point of avoiding this with electoral politics. People are struggling to eat and survive at a time where we'll likely mint our first trillionaire in our lifetimes. This simply can't continue.

I'm personally for outing wealthy and powerful pedophiles who are meaningfully making all of our lives worse to accrue completely unnecessary extra wealth.

jrochkind1 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The likely most damning/embaressing thing that has led to Summers resignations -- being a powerful 65-year-old man trying to pressure a 37-year-old mentee into having sex/relationship with you -- is considered (by me too) icky and unethical and an abuse of power, undoubtedly a violation of many ethics codes and depending on how it's done possibly some laws -- but is not actually anything to do with pedophilia or child abuse at all.

i know we like expanding the categories of all sins and then only refering to things by category name without the specifics, but.

vkou 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There was nothing particularly suspicious about Maxwell's death. The music was up, the noise tightened around him, and he was about to start eating shit for the consequences of his fraud.

The people he robbed in that fraud were regular Joes who were cheated out of their pensions, not some kind of shadow-government-global-conspiracy types who have the means to remote-program your toaster to kill you.

Him killing himself is not the most surprising way out of that situation.

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rchaud 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well it's a good thing that the DOJ and FBI have highly qualified and totally non-partisan bosses that will see to it that justice will be done /s

foobarian 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm sure I don't know what you mean. The FBI director is such a good guy he even writes children's books.

Bhilai an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> This is only the beginning.

And perhaps the end. If its as serious as you claim it is nothing will come out of it.