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kstrauser 6 hours ago

Eudora was nice, but it wasn't available for Linux/BSD, and it wasn't open source.

canucker2016 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Eudora was open-sourced in 2018.

see https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-eudora-email-client-sou...

and from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(email_client)

  The last 'mainline' (pre-OSE) versions of Eudora for Mac and Windows were open-sourced and preserved as an artefact by the Computer History Museum[2] in 2018; as part of the preservation, the CHM assumed ownership of the Eudora trademark.

  The only actively maintained fork of the software, known as Eudoramail as of June 2024, originates from 'mainline' Eudora for Windows as preserved by the CHM. Hermes, its current maintainers, describe Eudoramail 8.0 as currently being in alpha; Wellington publisher Jack Yan, meanwhile, points out its stability, a number of well-characterised and reproducible display bugs notwithstanding.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(email_client)#Hiatus_a...

  On May 22, 2018, after five years of discussion with Qualcomm, the Computer History Museum acquired full ownership of the source code, the Eudora trademarks, copyrights, and domain names. The transfer agreement from Qualcomm also allowed the Computer History Museum to publish the source code under the BSD open source license. The Eudora source code distributed by the Computer History Museum is the same except for the addition of the new license, code sanitization of profanity within its comments, and the removal of third-party software whose distribution rights had long expired.
recent news, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(email_client)#Under_He...
asveikau 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The time period under discussion ("before Thunderbird", and the heyday of Outlook lock-in, and I would also add before gmail) is well before 2018.

I used mutt at the time too, but I don't think it's in the same category as the graphical clients. For a while Gnome's evolution was also big in free OS circles.

kstrauser 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Eventually, and I was glad to see it!, but way too late for it to matter much. I would've used Eudora when it was originally offered. Since I couldn't, I got comfortable with Thunderbird. And when my friends who used Eudora had to migrate off of it, I set them up with Thunderbird, too.

ToucanLoucan 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Eudora was practically a CULT. I worked for one of their users who straight refused to use anything else, and one of my ongoing jobs as an admin was trying to get Exchange to play nice with it. It was maddening.

I fired it up several times for testing purposes, I don't get the hype, but man, for some people it was just the best damn software ever made.

rzzzt 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've seen "The Bat!" pop up frequently in computer magazine CDs as well, not sure how widely it was used though.

yawniek 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The Bat! was absolutely the best email client. ever. way ahead of eudora. it was a massive step back when i switched to my first macbook in 2006 (the black one!) and started to use Thunderbird. That said Thunderbird is fantastic now and great to see it get native Exchange support!

mmooss 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What is it like to use The Bat?

bitwize 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It did its thing—internet email—really well. It was aimed squarely at the user with like a POP account, and it had a clean UI and plenty of features. For the time and use case, it was a fantastic client.

Outhouse tried to be too many things at once. Email client with HTML/rich text features that made it leave Microsoft crufties including mso: tags and the infamous J smiley all over your emails, contact manager, calendar. It was heavyweight, slow, and not quite there in terms of UI. But if you're an MBA type and you're committed to MSFT, or you're looking for a turnkey solution and it's this or Lotus Notes, Outhouse and Exchange sound like a win.