Ask HN: What is the current state of the art in BIG (>5TB) cloud backups?

I'm talking about greater than 5 TB in size. Rclone looks really good because I can just give it a bandwidth limit, point it at google drive and fire and forget. But I'm curious if that is the best way to do this? What does HN think?

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monerozcash 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

This needs more information. 5TB is far from "BIG" when it comes to cloud backups.

You can probably get away with google drive+rclone+borg/restic/whatever, but it will be rather clunky. Backblaze might be a nicer backend to use.

I use rsync.net with borg, but not sure about your budget. Their 1TB lifetime plan is very competitive though.

	▲	KomoD a day ago \| parent [-]
		> Their 1TB lifetime plan is very competitive though. I know rsync.net has been around for a long time but I'm always very skeptical of lifetime plans, you'd have to use it ~10 years for it to be worth it. (Comparing with Hetzner's 1TB storage box)

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bomewish 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it’s important just use b2 or hetzner storage box. Use restic or rustic for backup and dedupe and encryption. I run this setup for home and work and we’re doing this on 10tb+.

	▲	Oxodao 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		+1 on this, i'm running restic with resticprofile and backup to b2 it works flawlessly

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slipheen 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like so many things, it depends-

How quickly do you need to be able to restore? Is it commercial or homelab?

The most cost-effective option by far would be to put a NAS device someplace offsite. You could use tailscale to connect to it remotely.

After that, depending on your access patterns, either a glacier-style s3 service (aws or backblaze/etc), or a rented bare-metal server with big disks some place inexpensive.

	▲	jacobwilliamroy 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		This is for a "warm" backup as opposed to a hot backup so restoration timeline would be like seven days.

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JustExAWS 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rclone with aws s3 Glacier Deep Archive storage class is about $1 a month per TB.

I didn’t use rclone. I just used native AWS cli commands. But I’m an AWS guy and already had my own seldom used AWS account.

Restore takes from 12 (more expensive) to 48 hours (cheaper)

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aynyc 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was actually talking to my dad the other day. He asked me if there is a way for him to replicate his hard drive to me without touching cloud providers. The contents are family photos & videos, plus paperwork. I couldn't find a simple solution.

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carstenhag 3 days ago | parent [-]

Syncthing will do a 1 to 1 connection if possible, else it will use a relay server. Traffic is encrypted. Open source. After the initial setup of marrying the devices together, it's just a matter of starting the application. Pretty much what you want?

	▲	aynyc 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Doesn't it still need a public relay server? I understand that's nitpicking, since even with tailscale, I need someone in the cloud to handle the IPs.

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throwaway81523 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm using Borg and Hetzner Storage Box. 5TB is nothing much. Big used to mean petabytes, but maybe petabytes aren't big any more either.

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brudgers 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why are you choosing to use the cloud instead of spinning rust under your control?

Or to put it another way, why is state of the art important?

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jacobwilliamroy 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I need to know what people are doing recently because most of the documentation I'm finding online is from 3-5 years ago and I want the most up-to-date information.

	▲	monerozcash 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		People are doing pretty much exactly what they were doing 3-5 years ago, software has been pretty good for a while no so there hasn't been much change.

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kjkjadksj 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Because you want an offsite backup of your local backups.

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Sohcahtoa82 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

5 TB? I don't know how to count that low.

	▲	carstenhag 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Probably just above normal b2c backup services, and below company requirements
	▲	jacobwilliamroy 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's just bigger than any amount I've ever dealt with in my whole life (I'm 30) and also it's hard to find solutions to manage it without running into bandwidth caps and also things are running for a very long time on the client side: days or weeks.