> Musk is super popular in the outspoken nazi demographic.

It's sad seeing such poor misinformed takes like this on hacker news. I guess Marc Andreessen and the President/Co-Founder of Stripe, among many others, are nazis now. It's well known that among the group that I would call "pro-America technologists" that he's highly appreciated and many want to figure out how to replicate him.

> and spaceflight fans.

As a spaceflight fan who was a fan of Musk all the way back in ~2012, I'm still a fan of him today, even if I have more issues with him today than I did back then. I can confidently say that many spaceflight fans feel the same as I on this. People overstate his controversial opinions (and being a nazi is not one of them) and understate his past achievements (and continued achievements).

is your idea of "pro-America" being a white supremacist state by chance? that hitler salute not subtle enough?

> It's well known that among the group that I would call "pro-America technologists"

You should start calling them “pro-India technologists”

> It's well known that among the group that I would call "pro-America technologists" that he's highly appreciated and many want to figure out how to replicate him.

> As a spaceflight fan who was a fan of Musk all the way back in ~2012, I'm still a fan of him today

Elon is a rare human being.

He is pretty much what his haters think of him (a political/social troll/child).

And he is also what his worshipers think (a generationally incredible technical and business visionary).

Most people, whether ordinary or extraordinary themselves, have trouble with dissonance. Elon is dissonance. They see a joke or a god.

A small segment sees both sides clearly. I find it a painful experience. Overlapping extremes of inspiration and damage. But reality isn't all bubblegum and glitter go pops.