> many non-Electron full IDEs

VSCode has even less features than Emacs, OOTB. Complaining about full IDEs slowness is fully irrelevant here. Full IDEs provide an end to end experience in implementing a project. Whatever you need, it's there. I think the only plugins I've installed on Jetbrains's ones is IdeaVim and I've never needed something else for XCode.

It's like complaining about a factory's assembly line, saying it's not as portable as the set of tools in your pelican case.

▲ throwaway2037 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In 2025, you really picked Emacs as the hill to die on? Who is under 30 who cares about Emacs in 2025? Few. You might as well argue that most developers should be using Perl 6.

    > the only plugins I've installed on Jetbrains's ones

By default, JetBrains' IntelliJ-based IDEs have a huge number of plug-ins installed. If you upgrade from Community Edition to a paid license, the number only increases. Your comment is slightly misleading to me.

	▲	icedchai 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Just wait until vi steps into the room. Perhaps we can recreate the Usenet emacs vs vi flame wars. Now, if only '90's me could see the tricked out neovim installs we have these days.

▲ bmitc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> VSCode has even less features than Emacs, OOTB.

No way that is true. In fact, it's the opposite, which is the exact reason I use VS Code.

	▲	skydhash 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Please take a look at the Emacs documentation sometimes. VSCode is more popular, which makes it easy to find extensions. But you don’t see those in the Emacs world because the equivalent is a few lines of config. So what you will see are more like meta-extensions. Something that either solve a whole class of problems, could be a full app, or provides a whole interaction model.

▲ gjvc an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

"Complaining about full IDEs slowness is fully irrelevant here. Full IDEs provide an end to end experience in implementing a project."

So? No excuse for a poor interactive experience.