| ▲ | lokimedes 4 hours ago |
| Which is based on Apple Webkit?
The winner is always the last marketable brand. |
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| ▲ | usrnm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem |
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| ▲ | josephg 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem How so? Do you think thousands of googlers and apple engineers could be reasonably managed by some KDE opensource contributors? Or do you imagine google and apple would have taken over KDE? (Does anyone want that? Sounds horrible.) | |
| ▲ | embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which came from "the KDE HTML Widget" AKA khtmlw. Wonder if that's the furthest we can go? > if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem Probably nowhere, people rather not do anything that contribute to something that does decisions they disagree with. Forking is beautiful, and I think improves things more than it hurts. Think of all the things we wouldn't have if it wasn't for forking projects :) | | |
| ▲ | Dylan16807 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | On the other hand if that had stopped google from having a browser they push into total dominance with the help of sleazy methods, maybe that would have been better overall. | | |
| ▲ | embedding-shape an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | We might not have had Mozilla/Phoenix/Firefox in the first place if so either, who I'd like to think been a net-positive for the web since inception. At least I remember being saved by Firefox when the options were pretty much Internet Explorer or Opera on a Windows machine. | |
| ▲ | lukan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I still prefer a open source chromium base vs a proprietary IE (or whatever else) Web Engine dominating. (Fixing IE6 issues was no fun) Also I do believe, the main reason chrome got dominance is simply because it got better from a technical POV. I started webdev on FF with firebug. But at some point chrome just got faster with superior dev tools. And their dev tools kept improving while FF stagnated and rather started and maintained u related social campaigns and otherwise engaged with shady tracking as well. | | |
| ▲ | Dylan16807 an hour ago | parent [-] | | > I still prefer a open source chromium base vs a proprietary IE (or whatever else) Web Engine dominating. Okay but that's not the tradeoff I was suggesting for consideration. Ideally nothing would have dominated, but if something was going to win I don't think it would have been IE retaking all of firefox's ground. And while I liked Opera at the time, that takeover is even less likely. > Also I do believe, the main reason chrome got dominance is simply because it got better from a technical POV. Partly it was technical prowess. But google pushing it on their web pages and paying to put an "install chrome" checkbox into the installers of unrelated programs was a big factor in chrome not just spreading but taking over. |
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| ▲ | znort_ 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| that's a bit misleading. it was based on webcore which apple had forked from khtml. however google found apple's addition to be a drag and i think very little of it (if anything at all, besides the khtml foundation) survived "the great cleanup" and rewrite that became blink. so actually webkit was a just transitional phase that led to a dead end and it is more accurate to say that blink is based on khtml. |
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| ▲ | benoau 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's "based on WebKit" like English is based on Germanic languages. |
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| ▲ | antonvs 18 minutes ago | parent [-] | | English is a Germanic language. It’s part of the West Germanic branch of the Germanic family of languages. |
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| ▲ | dragonwriter 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Note that these are somewhat different kinds of "based on". Chromium is an upstream dependency (by way of Electron) for VSCode. WebKit was an upstream dependency of Chromium, but is no more since the Blink/WebKit hard fork. |
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| ▲ | onion2k 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That drives exactly $0 of Apple's revenue. It's only a win if you care about things that don't matter. |
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| ▲ | hu3 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | And Apple is not even the last node in the chain. WebKit came from KDE's khtml Every year is the year of Linux. |
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