To me this all just looks like a big frothy chemical reaction playing out far beyond any one person's control.

With that view, many things oscillate over time, including game theory patterns (average interaction intentions of win-win, win-lose, lose-lose), and integration / mitosis (unions, international treaties, civil wars),etc.

So my optimistic view is that inevitably we will get more tech whether we want it or not, and it will probably make things worse many for a while, but then it will simultaneously enable and force a restructuring at some level that starts a new cycle of prosperity. On the other side it will be clear that all this tech directly enables a better (more free, more diverse, more rewarding, more sustainable) way of life.

I believe this because from studying history it seems this pattern plays out over and over and over again to varying degrees.

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jimbokun 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Either that or the AI robots kill us all.

Could go either way.

	▲	FloorEgg 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		My guess is that whatever actually happens it will be very different than what the average person has imagined could happen (including me).

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Eisenstein 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When you say that this pattern plays out, can you be specific?

	▲	FloorEgg 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't have time to be precise, but I'll do my best to be more specific. New system better at organizing human behavior -> increases prosperity -> more capacity for invention -> new technologies disrupt power dynamics -> greed and power-law dynamics tilt system away from broad prosperity (most powerful switch from win-win to win-lose) -> majority become unsatisfied with system -> economics break down (too much debt, not enough education, technology increasingly and disproportionately benefits wealthy) -> trust break down -> average pattern of behavior tilts towards lose-lose dynamics -> technology keeps advancing -,> new technologies disrupt old power structures -> restructuring of world-powr order at highest levels (often through conflict) -> new system established, incorporating lessons learned from the old (more fair, more inclusive) -> trust reestablished, shift back to win-win dynamics (cycle repeats) In reality it's more messy than this. Also the geographical location of this cycle and the central power can move around. Some places may sit out one or more cycles and get stuck.
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gizajob 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The majority of people are already doing ”bullshit jobs” and many of them know it too. Using AI to automate the bullshit and capture the value leaves them with nothing.

The AI evangelists generally overlook that one of the primary things that capitalism does is fill people’s lives with busywork, in part as an exercise in power and in another part because if given their time back, those people would genuinely have absolutely no idea what to do with it.