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Defletter 4 hours ago

This is a bit of a what-if, but I had a Pebble watch back then and was considering trying to make an app for it. The idea that, if I had succeeded and published the app, that Rebble would be claiming ownership over my binary and threatening legal action against the original Pebble creator, to be really quite ridiculous and affronting.

tomaskafka 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I am one of the developers who did make Pebble apps - here's a screenshot with the Pebble version of Weathergraph on Eric's watch: https://x.com/weathergraph/status/1959253197664469246

Today is the day I found out Rebble is claiming the ownership of my app's binaries. All I can say is that they don't have it.

Brian_K_White 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't understand this.

The original Pebble threw them away. They have no claim on any of whatever exists now. They just want it for obvious reasons.

Rebble clearly honors copyright, ex: removing apps on request of the author. Thst's the only right any copyright holder ever has is to say you can't redistribute copies.

So you can request they remove your app any time you want.

And you are obviously free to give Core a copy of your app yourself any time you want.

So what's the problem? Where in the world is "They think they own my binaries!" in that? What in the ever loving hell are you talking about?

Next, in fact they do own those actual binaries the same way you own a physical book. If you publish something and I receive a copy, whether it's a physical book or dvd or a free download, I do actually own that copy. Your rights over it are only the copyright. You can say that I can't redistribute more copies. That's it.

The point being, you have no slightest hint of any kind of right to say "Hey I deleted my original. Give me back that download."

Core simply wants something that as far as I can tell they have no right to.

Rebble does not claim to "own" your app, they only claim to have done a lot of work saving and patching abandoned apps and recreated a whole service for managing and distributing them, wrote new apps, published new apps along with the old, to support watch owners that Pebble abandoned.

They didn't "take" anything, they rescued stuff other people threw away. Now Core wants not only what Pebble threw away, but also everything Rebble did since then.

Seriously I do not understand why so many of the comments on this article take Core's side. Fuck them as far as I can see.

Core could have easily developed a way to incorporate or join the existing Rebble ecosystem without insisting on taking it over. They could still do whatever new development they want, and could work on bringing themselves up to speed to being able to supply all services in parallel so that they aren't actually dependant on the external Rebble for their own business. At some later time Rebble could go bad and Core could just be up to speed and watch owners could switch over to Core easy peasy. They could have their own app store where they don't have to ask Rebbles permission for anything. They could do that cooperatively but instead they are being huge inconsiderate assholes.

Core is not willing to allow Rebble to exist now that Core has appeared after all these years. "Now that I'm here, you have to disappear, oh and also give me all that stuff." Excuse me what? I mean seriously how is anyone calling Core the abused party here?

philipwhiuk 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Rebble does not claim to "own" your app, they only claim to have done a lot of work saving and patching abandoned apps and recreated a whole service for managing and distributing them, wrote new apps, published new apps along with the old, to support watch owners that Pebble abandoned.

Because they never had the right to redistribute it.

This is like YouTube shutting down and me offering a bunch of videos I download for free, claiming that setting up a portal was a lot of work so I get rights.

I’d get sued to high heaven and the only reason Rebble is getting away with it is that the watch face developers aren’t big outfits with lawyers.

IshKebab 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah that's not how copyright works.