Paris Cloudflare Error

▲ chasing0entropy 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

AI scrapes internet from millions of IPs worldwide proving an orchestrated, intelligent, botnet effectually becoming a large percentage of total internet traffic overnight.

Internet responds by retreating to behind a single cloud provider who can mysteriously keep ai at bay... Same provider network is probably responsible for the near instantaneous distribution of AI traffic to begin with.

Internet's last bastion of hope is attacked, rather quickly, and half of the internet is scrambling to remember how to administer DNS (The other half never knew).

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agos 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Cloudflare was already a thing before AI scrapers

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immibis 8 hours ago | parent [-]

And they were strongly suspected to DDoS their prospective customers, so they would suddenly have a need to buy DDoS protection.

	▲	amalcon 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The claim I think you're referring to is in two parts: 1) They were willing to sell DDoS protection to DDoS services 2) This decision was made specifically because the existence of DDoS services increased the value of their product This was always a weird claim, because the first part is 100% true -- while the second part was always unfounded speculation. The conclusion is thus most likely false. They just didn't want to incorporate that sort of thing into their ToS or vet their customers in that way, for various understandable reasons.
	▲	steelbrain 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		First I’m hearing of it, got a source?
	▲	gruez 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		How does this work given there are many competing DDoS protection providers like Akamai, Azure, or AWS?
	▲	giancarlostoro 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That is a wild claim, got some evidence?

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nullbyte808 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

what is this "AI" your referring to?

▲ VladVladikoff 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cloudflare yet again making the internet a shittier place. I will never understand why so many people willingly allow their website to be MiTM’d by this garbage company.

▲ delichon 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Then I suppose you know a better alternative when your site is being effectively DDOSed by a ridiculously high volume of scrapers. Please share.

▲ chasing0entropy 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are so many CDNs, they have existed since the internet was just for porn. The problem is they are not as easy to use for today's novice webdev with zero knowledge of how to administer or even research infrastructure beyond the stack specs.

	▲	whizzter 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don't think the issue is a skill one but rather giving a sane option. Going to Akamai's site I don't see a single mention of pricing, I don't want to be smooched by some enterprise salesman to get my pricing options. Going to Fastly's site I see egress costs that makes me think I could probably be better of just staying on AWS,Azure or smth and have a single bill to care about. (That have their own expensive options). There's probably other small players with sane options pricing wise, but when it comes to managing DDoS issues people want someone big to handle the bulk.

▲ codingminds 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

E.g. https://www.fastly.com/

But Cloudflare has the best marketing of all of them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

▲ ramon156 7 hours ago | parent [-]

iirc isn't steam also on fastly? I vaguely remember their stack to either include fastly or they're using fastify. Names...

▲ hofrogs 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think Steam uses akamai, at least for user-generated content

	▲	codingminds 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Seems to be correct `store.steampowered.com. 30 IN A 184.31.101.220 NetRange: 184.24.0.0 - 184.31.255.255 CIDR: 184.24.0.0/13 NetName: AKAMAI`

▲ deaux 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

LA here.

▲ nullbyte808 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bonjour!