> At some point we really need to think if this is the web we want,

You think we have a say in this?

louismerlin 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You have the power to not host your own infrastructure on aws and behind cloudflare, or in the case of an employer you have the power to fight against the voices arguing for the unsustainable status quo.

	▲	reassess_blind 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If you need DDoS mitigation then you essentially need to rely on a third party. Every third party will have inevitable downtime. For many it’s just whether you’d prefer to be down while everyone else is down or not.
	▲	rwky 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		A lot of business would accept the rare downtime from Cloudflare in exchange for the DDoS protection. If the internet was always a nice place we wouldn't need Cloudflare and similar :(
	▲	quaintdev 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You also have the power to not pay money to big tech

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squigz 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The HN crowd in particular absolutely has a say in this, given the amount of engineering leads, managers, and even just regular programmers/admins/etc that frequent here - all of whom contribute to making these decisions.