Well, between AWS US EAST 1 killing half the internet, and this incident, not even a month passed. Meanwhile, my physical servers don't care and happily serve many people at a cheaper cost than any cloud offer.

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alt227 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We had an Azure outage in between those 2 as well.

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vlovich123 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You realize these are two different companies right? If you’re saying “I’m an AWS customer with cloudflare in front” I think you’ve failed to realize that two 99.9% available services in series have a combined availability of ~99.8% - that’s just math.

Your physical servers should have similar issues if you put a CDN in front unless the physical server is able to achieve a 100% uptime (100% * 3 9s = 3 9s). Or you don’t have a CDN but can be trivially knocked offline by the tiniest botnet (or even hitting hacker news front page)

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lpcvoid 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I do. But I put both into the "cloud offering off-prem for very much money" shoebox. I setup a CDN once using VPS from different hosting providers for under 100 USD a month, which I would vastly prefer over trusting anything cloud.

And yes, I know that there's sites that need the scale of an operation like Cloudflare or AWS. But 99.9(...)% of pages don't, and people should start realizing that.

	▲	mallets 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		People who don't need that, also don't care much for an hour or two of service disruption. Most users will have far worse disruptions with the alternatives.

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chistev 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How do you back up?

	▲	lpcvoid 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		We have a few colocated servers offsite, each in a different region, each with a zpool of mirrored spinning rust. We use rsync across those at different times.

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donglong 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

never build on us-east-1, everyone knows that ;)