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xp84 4 hours ago

> Instead of letting an agent act directly as you, Windows spins up this extra workspace, gives it limited access (like specific folders such as Documents or Desktop), and keeps its actions isolated and auditable.

> Each agent can have its own workspace and access rules, so what one agent can see or do doesn’t automatically apply to others, and you stay in control of what they’re allowed to touch.

This actually sounds thoughtful. I know it's super popular to crap on MS about AI since the Windows Recall feature, but at this point it just seems like intentional bad faith. This feature here is something you'd have to turn on, anyway.

Arainach 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I disagree. Maybe certain sensitive things are outside that folder such as browser cookies, but most users have a LOT of sensitive stuff there. "Tax forms 2023.pdf" for instance.

It's similar to UAC - a good and important protection, but fundamentally if you're letting code run with access to your plain old non-administrator documents that's where the biggest data threats are.

stubish 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But how is this worse? If you run an agent now, it will run with your privileges. If you run an agent after this feature, it will run with limited privileges as specified by you.

Heaps of ranting here about agents sucking down private data to Microsoft servers without your knowledge, where a cursory look at this feature is to give you more control if you actually want to use agents. Sure, it might be learned reflex behavior, but that is exactly what OP was talking about.

Arainach 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's worse because they're exposing these features to the kind of people who aren't running agents now.

thewebguyd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> but most users have a LOT of sensitive stuff there. "Tax forms 2023.pdf" for instance.

So don’t give it access?

It clearly says it’ll have granular ACLs. How is this any different from something like Gemini CLI or Claude Code where you’re running it in your src directory?

It’s basically that, but for non-devs and with a GUI instead of a TUI.

garbagewoman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting that you see the sheer amount of criticism, week after week, and assume it must be bad faith by microsoft critics rather than bad faith by microsoft.

testartr 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

the critics always complain about what bad thing Microsoft will do in the future, rarely about what they are actually doing

secureboot was supposedly an evil conspiracy to block running linux on computers. secureboot is everywhere now, and Linux still runs on personal computers

knowitnone3 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you kidding? This is pure theft. If I got into your computer and accessed your Documents and Desktop, I'd be in jail but its OK when Microsoft does it.

contextfree 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most apps on Windows can already access those folders though, except for UWP/AppContainer apps (which require particular capabilities to access them). I think the same is generally still true of the equivalents on most Linux distributions despite that things like SELinux exist.

thewebguyd 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That, and how many commenters in this thread are using something like Claude Code with their src directory as context? This is no different. It’s [claude code/gemini CLI/codex] but for non-devs and with a GUI instead of a TUI.

I feel like everyone here is overly dismissive of this because it’s cool to hate Windows in these parts, but this could be genuinely useful for your average office drone. Much like we love to shit on Copilot for M365 but it’s been extremely useful to the non-tech folks at my work.

8note an hour ago | parent [-]

wouldnt the more apt comparison being that anthropic uses a zero day to run claude code as root on / with "dangerously ignore permissions" turned on?

claude code is quite useful, but its a tool that accepts the context i give it, and it asks for permissions before it does things

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o11c 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Obligatory https://xkcd.com/1200/

Just replace "someone steals my laptop" with "Microsoft installs malware"