| ▲ | Trump-Licensed Presidential Seal Beer Pong Set, Bible Could Violate Federal Law(forbes.com) |
| 29 points by stopbulying 7 hours ago | 18 comments |
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| ▲ | stopbulying 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| 18 U.S. Code § 713 - Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/713# Great Seal of the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_State... Seal of the president of the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_president_of_the_U... |
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| ▲ | Bender 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | (f) A violation of the provisions of this section may be enjoined at the suit of the Attorney General, I suspect Pam will not do anything but the next administration certainly could. | | |
| ▲ | CamperBob2 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Pam will be too busy running interference for the Epstein clients. "Active investigation, you see. Can't release evidence in an active investigation. It would prejudice the jury pool." Those who voted for this are bad people who should feel bad. |
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| ▲ | elmerfud 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You snip out the important bits. It's not that no one can use the great seal It's that if it's used in such a way where a reasonable person wouldn't believe whatever the item is is actually represented to be by the federal government. If the reasonable person would not consider it to be something by the federal government then you are totally allowed to use it. It is one of the consequences of free speech and having a public government. Because this doesn't fall under normal trademark law or even a normal copyright. So it very much becomes a question for the courts to answer. People's political bias doesn't factor into it. The courts measurement of a reasonable person standard is what does. | |
| ▲ | jshier 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Another law that needs to have actual criminal consequences, especially if the person doing it is part of the federal government, rather than optional civil consequences. |
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| ▲ | elmerfud 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't think anyone actually read the law including the Forbes article. Apparently my previous comment no one seems to understand even the most perfunctory things about the law. There is no general prohibition about using the seal of the United States. It is only violating these provisions when you use it in a way where a reasonable person would believe it is being endorsed by the United States government. Clearly based upon the insanity in these comments no one believes that these things are actually endorsed by the government they're just upset at Trump and they're upset at the usage of the seal. Not liking it doesn't violate the law you actually believing that these things are somehow part of the federal government would. As you all represent reasonable people and clearly don't believe this including the author of this article it's just this vague threat that it could violate the law. If you want it to violate the law you're going to have to be a lot dumber than you actually are or find a bunch of dumber people. Then you would have a case where you could show that these reasonably dumb people believe these are things from our federal government. Your feelings about something aren't what matters. Try and set them aside. |
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| ▲ | stopbulying 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Search for: trump alcohol:
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=Trump+alc... : First result today: "President Trump Shares Story About His Brother’s Alcohol Addiction" https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q9yJSjdp_go& Then why are they selling beer pong with the presidential seal on it? |
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| ▲ | stopbulying 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also, they sell Trump Vodka. Trump Vodka:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Vodka : > The brand was launched in the United States in 2005, but ceased production under the Trump name in 2011 when it failed to meet the required threshold for distribution. However, it is still sold (in 2016) in Israel, especially around the Jewish holiday of Passover.[2] Trump Vodka is made from potatoes. Trump Vodka is sold in a gold-plated glass bottle that can't be recycled. > Trump Vodka started being sold unofficially in Israel by H. Pixel International based on a signed deal with Drinks Americas, but Trump brought a lawsuit against the company for copyright infringement, as they did not have his agreement to use his image in advertising or the brand. [10][11] | | |
| ▲ | stopbulying 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Apparently they also got into a civil legal dispute about use of their brand name or likeness by Carl Icahn, who acquired multiple failing casinos in Atlantic City with business names featuring Trump's name; and he was later hired as an advisor by the Trump Administration. So, they seem to understand likeness and name rights. Did they have knowledge of right and wrong at the time of the offense? | | |
| ▲ | stopbulying 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also, they are hosting free booze parties while sabotaging medical cannabis patients who still have the right to travel amongst the states for 12 months until THC is unequally illegal for some people again. Did not veto the recriminalization of canbabis. Free booze parties on our tab, sells alcohol, says they never drink, brother has a problem; has no interim plan for medical cannabis patients that they're intending to intentionally deny rights to unequally without an authorizing amendment. Aren't they sabotaging the medication and health of medical cannabis patients unequally and unconstitutionally? What about Equal Protection of Equal Rights, Natural Rights, and Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness? | | |
| ▲ | verdverm 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The point is to grift and destroy as much as they can so they can grift harder the next time. These oligarchs want 1991 Russia and have been / are working with Hungary / Orban as a testing ground |
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| ▲ | antibull 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | mac3n 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Trump violate the law? Say it ain't so! |
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| ▲ | naIak 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That pong set is kitsch as hell. I WANT IT! |
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| ▲ | vunderba 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I remember first hearing about the Trump Bible and was reminded of an old high school friend who used to sardonically whisper "And no one else" at any sufficiently zealous patriotic gathering where it would conclude with "God Bless the USA." Tried to make the cover more authentic to really capture the spirit of the Trump administration. https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/trump-bible |
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| ▲ | elmerfud 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Does a beer pong set reasonably convey that this is by the US government? |
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