Germany and their out of control energy costs (while still only being at best 1/5 of the way there if you count things like thermal heat), are a good example.

California has a dramatically easier climate, and is similarly struggling - without even taking into account goods shipping/transportation, thermal heat in the less nice climate zones, etc.

California might have a chance of getting to actual net zero without completely breaking the bank. But it’s not obvious it will. Germany is an order of magnitude harder.

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RGamma 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

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FrustratedMonky 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The US has flipped. Forget Net-Zero. It's Net-Positive, how can we get more CO2.

Like the movie The Arrival (1996)

How can we burn more coal, more gas.

	▲	lazide 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yup, it’s like when someone ‘tries to diet’, can’t handle it anymore, and then goes on a crazy binge. I figure we’ve got at least a year or two before we start puking all over the place. Maybe less though! Fun times, eh?