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| ▲ | jbritton 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Gotham Chess has done chat bot chess championships. The chat bots make a few good moves, and then begin making illegal moves, randomly removing or adding pieces, and completing ignoring obvious threats and attacks. It is so obvious that the pattern matching is not resulting in reasoning. Another example is Towers of Hanoi. An LLM can write code to solve it, because that’s an easy pattern match. But it can’t write out the steps beyond a 3 disk puzzle. It has no understanding of the recursive nature of the problem. |
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| ▲ | handoflixue 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Would you agree that many humans, especially younger ones, are also incapable of reasoning? |
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| ▲ | addaon 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think it’s completely uncontroversial that younger humans are incapable of reasoning, no? The only area for discussion is at which age (if any) this changes for an individual. | | |
| ▲ | hattmall 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I would say that's a pretty controversial take unless you strictly mean babies. At the point a kid can walk they are certainly capable of some level of reasoning because just walking successfully prior to it becoming muscle memory requires a fair amount of reasoning and children very rapidly figure out new things both spatial and logical. | | |
| ▲ | addaon 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | So if you believe babies do not reason, and walking humans do, then younger humans up to some age do not reason, yes? |
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| ▲ | whattheheckheck 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Can you post your experiments please? |
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