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viraptor 11 hours ago

It's just the meme of the year. There's nothing that changed really for quite a long time. Some cloud services provide things on a simplistic and easy way, some in complex and complete ecosystem. The same choice and the tradeoffs have always been there.

The only change is that it's popular to write a "how we saved $$$" blog posts. Which actually could be read as "how we failed to do proper analysis and kept losing $$$ for years".

jll29 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Not necessarily "failure": for a startup, it makes sense to prioritize speed of development over cost optimization. Since you don't know just how fast your MVP will grow, remaining elastic early on is a plus, and sticking with hyperscalers gives you that (you never know, you may land on the front page of Slashdow and HN at the same time..).

For solo indie developers, in contrast, it makes more sense to seek out the cost optimal setup straight away.

viraptor 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I totally get the tradeoffs, but that's not what I'm talking about. For example the popular Hey article was 10 years into their operations and they were spending multiple millions with AWS. That's not a startup anymore, and they don't need to optimise for unexpected 10x growth. At some point for new companies it transforms from "good decision" to "total cost is comparable" to "we should notice cloud doesn't make sense now" to "we're years late and failed at planning".

raw_anon_1111 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

99% of all “startups” will never grow past the need of one VM and one database - that includes all of the dumb “AI startups” that YC is funding.